Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining SPF
"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 19 July 2012 13:11 UTC
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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining SPF
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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>wrote: > Now, since we don't have a way of contacting every operator of every > domain on the Internet, even if you contacted those 203 people and > found that they were using these features in a way such that they > could easily adapt to elimination of the feature, that would in no way > provide you with evidence that the features are "unusued". Your only > evidence is still your starting evidence, which is that the feature is > used by a tiny percentage of the population. > > If we're going to accept that these are representative samples, then discovering that the 203 would be willing to adapt to elimination of the feature also means we have to accept that the same is likely true of those domains the survey didn't explicitly discover. As you said, and I agree, the best we could ever hope to achieve is a representative sample. That logic worked for reaching the conclusions in draft-ietf-spfbis-experiment, and I don't see why it doesn't apply now. -MSK
- [spfbis] A standards track document defining SPF S Moonesamy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Commerco WebMaster
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Dave Crocker
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Commerco WebMaster
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- [spfbis] Is a feature desirable in practical term… Dave Crocker
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] Is a feature desirable in practical … Commerco WebMaster
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … S Moonesamy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] Is a feature desirable in practical … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [spfbis] PTR checking, was A standards track … John Levine
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Scott Kitterman
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [spfbis] A standards track document defining … Hector Santos