Re: [spring] IPv6 Addresses and SIDs

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Sun, 13 October 2019 22:57 UTC

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From: Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 00:57:19 +0200
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Hi Ron,

/64 prefix is a pile of addresses ... if someone would be to follow your
suggestion I could not allocate some blocks of that prefix on R1, then some
other blocks on R2 then yet more on my servers.

You said:

*“With a /64, if one /128 represents an IPv6 interface, as described in RFC
4291, all /128 MUST either:*



   - *Represent an IPv6 interface, as described in RFC 4291, or*
   - *Be unassigned”*


Maybe you meant to say something else:

*“When a /64 is used as SRv6 locator prefix, if one /128 represents an IPv6
interface, as described in RFC 4291, all /128 MUST either:*



   - *Represent an IPv6 interface, as described in RFC 4291, or*
   - *Be unassigned”*

But then you sent this to SPRINT indicating that 6MAN should be the
audience :).

Best,
R.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 12:45 AM Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net> wrote:

> Robert,
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> I’m having a hard time understanding exactly how I have violated the
> longest match principle. Could you provide:
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>    - A pointer to a statement of the longest match principle
>    - A few words regarding how I have violated it
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>                                                               Ron
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> *From:* Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:24 PM
> *To:* Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
> *Cc:* SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* IPv6 Addresses and SIDs
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> Hi Ron,
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> I disagree.
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> Your suggestion violates longest prefix match principle in routing.
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> It is huge waist of address space and is not specific to IPv6 at all.
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> Let me describe the deployment case where your suggestion would cause it
> to break:
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> I have /64 prefix where a few  /128s from that space I allocate to local
> interfaces making it a local v6 destinations on those nodes.
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> However in the spirit of CIDR I still want to to use some blocks of that
> space - say  /126 or /124 as blocks which I only use to trigger local NAT
> as per rfc6296. And NAT does not require local address to be a destination
> address so it would be a big disservice to kill such deployment option.
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> Many thx,
> R.
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> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:59 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=
> 40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Folks,
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> I think that we need a global rule that says:
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> “With a /64, if one /128 represents an IPv6 interface, as described in RFC
> 4291, all /128 MUST either:
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>    - Represent an IPv6 interface, as described in RFC 4291, or
>    - Be unassigned”
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> The 6man WG will need to make such a statement since it owns RFC 4291.
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>                                                              Ron
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> Juniper Business Use Only
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