[spring] Re: Intended Status of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-security-08.txt - Re: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-spring-srv6-security-08.txt

[Alvaro Retana <[e-mail]>]

 [Thanks Zafar for kicking off this discussion!]


WG/authors:

We would like to hear opinions on Zafar's proposed change of Status for
this document, from the Standards Track to Informational.

Please explain why you might be in favor, or against, a change in the
Status.

We will take opinions until Jan/19, 2026.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

On January 5, 2026 at 10:16:22 PM, Zafar Ali (zali) ([e-mail]) wrote:

Hi Alvaro, chairs, authors, WG,

I am following up on the following comments from the chairs:
"As the Shepherd, you should start a discussion on the list about this --
including any justification for changing the current status."

Re - Q11: What status should the document have?

In my opinion, the document should progress as Informational (like the case
of rfc9099).
There is some normative text and BCP 14 language, but it is mostly in
restating normative language specified in existing RFCs the document cites.
Some wordsmithing can fix it, without losing any substance.
I do not think an update tag is needed.

Given this hint from chairs, the intent of this email is to start that
discussion.
Chairs may chime in to follow up more formally/ change subject/ formal
poll, etc.

Thanks



Regards … Zafar


*From: *Alvaro Retana <[e-mail]>
*Date: *Wednesday, December 17, 2025 at 1:49 PM
*To: *Zafar Ali (zali) <[e-mail]>
*Cc: *spring Chairs <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] <
[e-mail]>
*Subject: *Re: New Version Notification for
draft-ietf-spring-srv6-security-08.txt

On December 16, 2025 at 8:48:08 PM, Zafar Ali wrote:

Hi Zafar!

> I have submitted a Shepherd review.

You submitted the Shepherd writeup -- thanks!
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-security/shepherdwriteup/



I have a couple of questions/comments (below). Specifically, your answer to
Q11 should be discussed on the list before starting the WGLC.

In your review of the document, do you have any comments for the authors to
address?


Thanks!

Alvaro.


> 10. Several IETF Areas have assembled [lists of common issues that their
>     reviewers encounter][6]. For which areas have such issues been
>     identified and addressed? For which does this still need to happen in
>     subsequent reviews?
>
> I think the document will benefit from a directorate review from OPS and
> SEC areas.
> ...
> [6]: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/iesg/ExpertTopics

I will request OPS and SEC (and RTG) directorate reviews with the WGLC.  Do
you have any specific items I should point out based on [6]?



> 11. What type of RFC publication is being requested on the IETF stream
>     ([Best Current Practice][12], [Proposed Standard, Internet Standard]
>     [13], [Informational, Experimental or Historic][14])? Why is this the
>     proper type of RFC? Do all Datatracker state attributes correctly
>     reflect this intent?
>
>  Proposed Standard is requested and indicated in the title page header.
>  However, it is my opinion that the working group should discuss the
>  intentional status of the document (Standards Track, informational or
BCP)
>  before the handoff.

What status should the document have?  As the Shepherd, you should start a
discussion on the list about this -- including any justification for
changing the current status.

We have discussed this document Updating (at least) rfc8402.  We would need
this document to be on the Standards Track (or maybe a BCP) to do that.
The "Updates" tag is not ideal, but it is the only one we have.  Consider
an "Update" if discussing the status on the list.



> 12. Have reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the
>     intellectual property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations described
>     in [BCP 79][7]? To the best of your knowledge, have all required
>     disclosures been filed? If not, explain why. If yes, summarize any
>     relevant discussion, including links to publicly-available messages
>     when applicable.
>
>   Yes, reasonable efforts been made to remind all authors of the
intellectual
>   property rights (IPR) disclosure obligations. There have been IPR call
as
>   part of the progression of this draft.

I'll poll again with the WGLC.  Please include links to the mail archive of
that call when done (the IESG likes that).



> 19. Will publication of this document change the status of any existing
>     RFCs? If so, does the Datatracker metadata correctly reflect this and
>     are those RFCs listed on the title page, in the abstract, and
discussed
>     in the introduction? If not, explain why and point to the part of the
>     document where the relationship of this document to these other RFCs
is
>     discussed.
>
> No.

Based on the "Updates" discussion, this answer may need to be updated.