Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Provisioning of Underlay Services to Overlay Networks Using SRv6 (draft-xie-spring-srv6-npi-for-overlay)
Tom Hill <tom@ninjabadger.net> Wed, 09 March 2022 14:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Provisioning of Underlay Services to Overlay Networks Using SRv6 (draft-xie-spring-srv6-npi-for-overlay)
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Hi Jinrong, On 08/03/2022 01:58, Xiejingrong (Jingrong) wrote: > I just posted a draft that specifies a framework and some more detail of > the idea for provisioning of underlay services > (Slice/SR-policy/Mcast/etc) to overlay networks(SD-WAN/CDN/etc), using SRv6. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xie-spring-srv6-npi-for-overlay > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-xie-spring-srv6-npi-for-overlay> > > Please comment and send any feedback. > > I would like to discuss this document over e-mail/mail-list. I'm concerned that this draft is explicitly violating the concept of SRv6 as a protocol that operates within a Limited Domain. As per Section 3.2 of this draft, "... the network operator of AN, TN and Internet can be different from each other." Further, "In some scenarios, the AN can be an Internet exchange provider (IXP) independent of ISP and NSP. In some other scenarios, the AN can be an ISP that running Internet backbone as well." This would read to me that the proposal is explicitly intended to be inter-domain, and not at all limited to any one administrative domain. Additionally, I cannot determine if the draft implicitly requires the use of SIDs across the public Internet? Could I ask for some clarification on the scope of the draft, with respect to Limited Domains, and also the use of SIDs over the public Internet? Kind regards, -- Tom
- [spring] Network Programming Interface for Provis… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Tom Hill
- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Andrew Alston - IETF
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- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Andrew Alston - IETF
- Re: [spring] Network Programming Interface for Pr… Eduard Metz
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