[spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encoding Options for draft-ietf-spring-srv6-path-segment
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To: zengguanming <zengguanming=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org>
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Dear chairs and the WG, Re: Which direction best meets operational and architectural needs? The only option which is consistent with the SR network programming and data plane [RFC8986, 8754] is the following. 3B: Flag-less (Pure SID Convention) Mechanism: Rely solely on the END.PSID behavior code (Function = 0x0064); no flag needed. PSID is placed at SegmentList[n] where n = SRH.LastEntry. All existing features are developed using this model. There have use-cases deployed in the network where SRH is not needed. Re: Any strong objections to the proposed options. Also, SRv6 runs on IPv6 data plane, which provide other routing headers (like HBH). We do not want to add functionality in SRH that overloads functionality achievable by other RH (e.g., the HBH). Other options, especially, Option 2 must be discussed with the 6man WG. Thanks Regards … Zafar From: zengguanming <zengguanming=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Date: Friday, January 23, 2026 at 3:17 AM To: SPRING WG List <spring@ietf.org> Cc: Cheng Li <c.l@huawei.com>, bruno.decraene@orange.com <bruno.decraene@orange.com>, DHRUV DHODY <dhruv.dhody1@huawei.com>, chengweiqiang <chengweiqiang@chinamobile.com>, zhuyq8@chinatelecom.cn <zhuyq8@chinatelecom.cn> Subject: [spring] Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encoding Options for draft-ietf-spring-srv6-path-segment Dear SPRING WG, As part of our ongoing effort to finalize the encoding mechanism for the SRv6 Path Segment Identifier (PSID) in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-path-segment/, we would like to present three high-level approaches—along with their sub-options—for community review and consensus. Thanks to Bruno’s constructive review, comments and thorough discussion, we finally come up with the following options and present to the WG: ________________________________ Option 1: Dedicated P-flag (Current Draft Approach) Mechanism: Introduce a new SRH flag (e.g., P-flag) solely to indicate that SRH. SegmentList[Last Entry] carries a PSID. Pros: Simple, unambiguous, and enables per-packet fast-path processing for precise OAM (e.g., loss measurement). Cons: Consumes one of only eight SRH flags for a single function. Option 2: Generic Metadata Flag (Recommended Evolution) Mechanism: Define a generic SRH flag (e.g., G-flag) that signals the presence of a structured 128-bit sid in SegmentList[Last Entry]. The opcode is defined to distinguish different use cases, for example: OpCode=0x01: Path Segment ID (PSID) OpCode=0x02: In-situ OAM trace data OpCode=0x03: Custom telemetry payload Pros: One generic flag supports multiple future extensions, thus addresses “resource waste” concern by making the flag generically useful. Maintains high-performance, per-packet processing. Cons: Slightly more complex: requires defining opcode semantics and extensibility model. Option 3: No New Flag This has three sub-options: 3A: Reuse O-flag Mechanism: Use the existing OAM flag to signal PSID presence. Pros: • No SRH flags consumption. Cons: • O-flag implies slow-path, sampled OAM treatment (per RFC 8754), but PSID often requires fast-path, per-packet handling for accurate end-to-end metrics. Mismatch in processing model risks under-serving key use cases. 3B: Flag-less (Pure SID Convention) Mechanism: Rely solely on the END.PSID behavior code (Function = 0x0064); no flag needed. PSID is placed at SegmentList[n] where n = SRH.LastEntry. Pros: Minimalist design; No SRH flags consumption. Cons: No visibility for intermediate nodes—limits future telemetry or policy enforcement. Functionally restricted to egress-only use cases (e.g., basic path binding), losing the full programmability advantage of SRv6. 3C: Flag-less with Dedicated PSID Prefix Mechanism: * Reserve a well-known, non-routable IPv6 prefix (e.g., ::/32) for PSIDs. * Intermediate SR Endpoint nodes inspect SegmentList[n] and recognize PSID by prefix match. Pros: * No SRH flag consumption. * Enables intermediate node visibility without a flag. Cons: * SR nodes on the path needs one more mechanism to read PSID at Segment List[n], which introduces more complexity ________________________________ Next Steps We believe Option 1(Dedicated P-flag) is simple, unambiguous, and enables per-packet fast-path processing for precise OAM, and Option 2 (Generic Flag) offers the best long-term balance: it conserves scarce flag space, supports future extensions (beyond PSID), and maintains performance. And we kindly ask the WG to share your views on: 1. Which direction best meets operational and architectural needs? 2. Any strong objections to the proposed options. Depending on feedback, we will update the draft accordingly and aim to request WGLC soon. Thank you for your engagement! Best regards, Guanming Zeng & Cheng Li Huawei
- [spring] Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encoding Op… zengguanming
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… 阮征(联通集团本部)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… denglj4@chinatelecom.cn
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… JinMing LI
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… Haoyu Song
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… zengguanming
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… 易昕昕(联通集团本部)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… liu.yao71
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… zhangli (CE)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… bruno.decraene
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… zengguanming
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… zengguanming
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… zengguanming
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… linchangwang
- [spring] Re: Seeking WG Consensus on PSID Encodin… Weiqiang Cheng