Re: [spring] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-17
Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com> Fri, 21 August 2020 21:14 UTC
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From: Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 00:14:06 +0300
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To: "Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)" <pcamaril@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [spring] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-17
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Hi Pablo, Thank you for your quick answer and for addressing my comments. Your suggested edits are fine with me. Regards, Dan On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 6:43 PM Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril) < pcamaril@cisco.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > Thank you for the review. Please see comments inline with [PC]. > > Regards, > Pablo. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Romascanu via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> > Sent: jueves, 20 de agosto de 2020 11:43 > To: ops-dir@ietf.org > Cc: spring@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.org; > draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming.all@ietf.org; > dromasca@gmail.com > Subject: Opsdir last call review of > draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-17 > > Reviewer: Dan Romascanu > Review result: Has Issues > > This document together with the companion document > [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-illustration] defines the SRv6 Network > Programming concept and specifies the main segment routing behaviors to > enable the creation of interoperable overlays with underlay optimization > (Service Level Agreement). > > The document is Ready. There are a number of issues from an Operations > and Management perspective that need further work, and it is assumed that > they will be subject to work in the future. Some clarification on these > issues would be however welcome before document approval. > > There are several references that are work-in-progress. For example basic > concepts need to be understood from > [I-D.filsfils-spring-srv6-net-pgm-illustration]. > > [PC] The illustrations used to be part of this document originally but > were moved to a separate informational document based on WG feedback. > > The control plane interaction is based on BGP-LS > [I-D.ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext] or on BGP IP/VPN/EVPN > [I-D.ietf-bess-srv6-services]. These documents are listed as Informative > References probably in order to avoid a downref for this Standards Track > document, but actually this document cannot be implemented or even > understood without stable versions of the later. > > [PC] After re-reading section 8 I don't see a need for the informative > references to ietf-idr-bgpls-srv6-ext and ietf-bess-srv6-services. We will > remove those two. This document specifies a set of SRv6 SID behaviors for > supporting of TE and overlay services using SRv6; these TE and overlay > services themselves are not new (e.g. they are available with MPLS data > plane) and the document includes references to them. Control plane > extensions are covered by documents progressing in other RTG WGs. > > >From the operators point of view I would like to draw the attention on > >Sections 6 and 8. > > - Section 6 (Operation) recommends the implementation of a implement a > combined traffic counter (packets and bytes) per local SID entry. There is > no indication how an operator would retrieve this information and if and > how the values of these counters could be used for operational purposes. > Adding such information would be useful. > > [PC] These counters are included in the draft draft-raza-spring-srv6-yang > that was just recently adopted by the Spring WG. I'll update this section > to indicate that retrieval of these counters via MIB, NETCONF/YANG or other > means is outside the scope of this document. > > - Section 8 (Control Plane) describes how the controllers can explicitly > provision the SIDs and/or discover them as part of a service discovery > function. Subsections describe the usage of IGP, BGP-LS, and BGP > IP/VPN/EVPN for these purposes. Operators should be aware that one or more > of these protocols also need to be supported in an SDN deployment. > > [PC] I would propose the following diff > <old> > This section provides a high level overview of the control-plane protocols > involved with SRv6 and their specification. > </old> > <new> > While not necessary for an SDN control plane, the remainder of this > section provides a high-level illustrative overview of how control-plane > protocols may be involved with SRv6. Their specification is outside the > scope of this document. > </new> > > > >
- [spring] Opsdir last call review of draft-ietf-sp… Dan Romascanu via Datatracker
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