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Re: [Stackevo] Breakfast Tuesday Morning

Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Mon, 16 July 2018 21:46 UTC

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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: "Brian Trammell (IETF)" <ietf@trammell.ch>, Stackevo <stackevo@iab.org>
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Since undoubtedly someone will ask me to send pointers to this list after the discussion, I'll do so now.
Pre-reading anything before the meeting is not required.

Slides from IETF 99: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/slides-99-dispatch-mult-transport-uris-00
Minutes from IETF 99 artarea discussion: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/99/materials/minutes-99-dispatch-00
Subsequent ART/URI-review thread (on one page): http://ietf.10.n7.nabble.com/art-Internet-Draft-Using-URIs-With-Multiple-Transport-Stacks-td538558.html 

During the program meeting, I plan to talk to slides 2-3 of the deck above, and verbally summarize 
what's in the other two links.  We can then discuss Adam's question to the IAB.

Dave

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From: Dave Thaler 
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To: 'Brian Trammell (IETF)' <ietf@trammell.ch>; Stackevo <stackevo@iab.org>
Subject: RE: [Stackevo] Breakfast Tuesday Morning

Brian Trammell writes:
> feel free to propose a concrete topic of discussion

I have a topic to propose.  
draft-thaler-appsawg-multi-transport-uris is basically a problem statement, surveying various things people do today.
It was reviewed by artarea/dispatch back at IETF 99 and had support (all issues raised so far have been addressed), and I've been talking to Alexey and Adam about AD-sponsoring.

However, there's no actual recommendations, which would be a separate effort/doc, as discussed in artarea at IETF 99.
The W3C TAG tried and failed to get any consensus, so I'm not optimistic the IETF could either (and I'm not sure whether the IAB could either for that matter).

Adam wrote:
> I'll bend the ear of various IAB members to see whether they think there's hope of making progress on the second document you mention.

Since one of the main issues is how to deal with protocol stacks, it seems that the Stackevo program might the most logical program for such question.

Dave

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