[stir] Mahesh Jethanandani's Block on charter-ietf-stir-02-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Subject: [stir] Mahesh Jethanandani's Block on charter-ietf-stir-02-00: (with BLOCK and COMMENT)
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Mahesh Jethanandani has entered the following ballot position for charter-ietf-stir-02-00: Block When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-stir/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BLOCK: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb and Roman have already mentioned milestones, so I will not repeat it here. But the intended status is unspecified for every deliverable. Given that items 2 and 3 both define protocol-visible identifiers and audit mechanisms that verifiers will need to interoperate on, I'd expect at least those two to be Standards Track. I had put it along with milestones, but Eric reminded me that milestones can be changed, so the intended status needs to go into the charter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A small update to my COMMENT here. Privacy impact of entity identification isn't discussed: 10 > Operational experience has revealed that while STIR effectively authenticates 11 > the event of a call and the authorization to use a telephone number, it does 12 > not provide a means to identify the entity behind that authorization. 26 > The Working Group will define a means to associate a PASSporT with an 27 > identifier representing the entity holding the right to use an assigned 28 > telephone number. STIR has historically treated call privacy as a first-order concern — the outgoing charter carried a dedicated "privacy analysis" milestone, and the base protocol supports anonymous calls. Attaching an entity identifier that verifiers can consume is a meaningful new disclosure surface (who gets to see it, is there an opt-out, does it apply uniformly to individuals and enterprises). I previously attributed it to RFC 2418 §2.2, but it turns out that the RFC only talks about security impact. It does not enumerate privacy separately. However, in the spirit of RFC 6973, it is exactly the kind of impact a charter should call out. This seems like squarely the case where it applies. A sentence or two acknowledging the privacy dimension of item 2 would help. --- Silence on ATIS/SIP Forum liaison, given the governance carve-out: 49 > - Definition of jurisdictional or legal policy topics, including vetting 50 > policies, regulatory requirements, governance, or authorization frameworks. - 51 > Definition of governance requirements for numbering authorities, certificate 52 > authorities, or transparency services. This carve-out is sensible, but it doesn't say who owns that governance. In practice, isn't that the ATIS/SIP Forum's STI-GA/STI-PA framework, which is what actually operationalizes STIR/SHAKEN in the field? Items 2 and 3 both sit right up against that governance layer (an entity identifier scheme and a certificate-transparency mechanism are exactly the kind of thing a certificate-authority governance body would need to adopt or bless). Do you need a sentence noting the expected coordination with ATIS/SIP Forum?
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