Re: [storm] iSER - what to do
Alexander Nezhinsky <nezhinsky@gmail.com> Tue, 17 July 2012 18:44 UTC
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:20 AM, <david.black@emc.com> wrote: > We can update the spec now - what do you think a reasonable timeframe > is to push out that code? I can estimate that the target part can be ready within a month. It's harder for me to make a correct estimation about the initiator. But I would bet on a similar time frame. >From there it should be taken up by the distributions. Each one has its own pace. At least RHEL 6.3 was released a couple of weeks ago, so if all goes well we can be pretty sure that the changes are included in RH 6.4. >> As we are trying to neutralize the shortcomings of the existing >> targets, the initiator can bet that the target won't send split >> login responses, as it regularly does not do so today. > > Ok, this does need to be stated as something that existing targets > do not do. Hmm, my second thought is that this may be incorrect in general. They don't do it in a "normal" setup, where the initiator sends a small number of keys, so the target answers with the response of a comparable size. I need to check how well split responses are generated and tolerated right now. Probably we should not bet on their absence anyway. >> 4. "New" target will recognize an "old" initiator by having received >> iSERHelloRequired=No either implicitly or explicitly. > > "implicitly or explicitly" means either iSERHelloRequired was not > received or iSERHelloRequired=No was received. Both cases MUST be > treated in the same fashion. > >> Then it must >> ignore the iSERHello absence > > Those aren't the right words. The target knows that iSERHello will > not be used - it can choose to terminate the negotiation without setting > up iSER. At least in theory, there could be an "old" home-grown initiator implementation which will not send iSERHelloRequired=Yes but will send iSERHello. Should not we allow this ? > ... then the target SHOULD do one of the following: > >> * delaying sending any "unexpected" PDUs until the first PDU is >> received from the initiator after the final login response >> has been sent >> * taking a reasonable timeout, say a second (the exact value >> does not matter as the initiator can't count on it anyway and >> no value will solve the problem in full, theoretically). >> * doing both, that is waiting for the first incoming PDU and >> taking a timer to start sending NOP-INs in case no PDUs arrived >> during the timeout period, to be able to detect silent connection >> failures. > > I believe the second and third bullets ought to be combined, in that > receipt of a PDU is sufficient reason to end the timeout period before > it would otherwise expire. I agree > >> 5. "New" target and "new" initiator will count on iSERHello as the >> guarantee of proper buffer posting >> >> 6. "Old" target and "old" initiator will work as they do now, in their >> double bliss of ignorance. > > We also need to issue a warning about the latter combination risking > RCaP session termination if unsolicited PDUs show up from the target > before the initiator is ready. Ok > If the above looks close to correct, we can start working on text for > the draft ... I'm ok with this Alexander
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- Re: [storm] iSER - what to do david.black
- Re: [storm] iSER - what to do Alexander Nezhinsky
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