Re: [storm] WG Action: STORage Maintenance (storm)

Tom Talpey <ttalpey@microsoft.com> Mon, 10 August 2009 23:25 UTC

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From: Tom Talpey <ttalpey@microsoft.com>
To: Mallikarjun Chadalapaka <cbm@chadalapaka.com>, "storm@ietf.org" <storm@ietf.org>
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Yes, missing words "Working Group". It's missing on the WG page as well, we will fix it, along with some inconsistent capitalization.

Thanks,
Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mallikarjun Chadalapaka [mailto:cbm@chadalapaka.com]
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:01 PM
To: 'IESG Secretary'; storm@ietf.org
Cc: Tom Talpey
Subject: RE: [storm] WG Action: STORage Maintenance (storm)

>This draft should be prepared so that it could become a Draft Standard
>RFC,
but it is up to >the to decide whether to advance it to Draft Standard.

There is a missing word here.  I assume it is up to the Working Group to decide?


Mallikarjun



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> A new IETF working group has been formed in the Transport Area.  For
> additional information, please contact the Area Directors or the WG
> Chairs.
>
> STORage Maintenance (storm)
> ----------------------------------
> Last Modified: 2009-08-04
>
> Current Status: Active Working Group
>
> Chairs:
> - David L. Black <black_david@emc.com>
> - Tom Talpey <ttalpey@microsoft.com>
>
> Transport Area Director(s):
> - Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
> - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
>
> Transport Area Advisor:
> - Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com>
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> Description of Working Group:
>
> The IETF IPS (IP Storage) and RDDP (Remote Direct Data Placement)
> working groups have produced a significant number of storage protocols
> (e.g., iSCSI, iSER and FCIP) for which there is significant usage. The
> time has come to reflect feedback from implementation and usage into
> updated RFCs; this work may include:
>
> - Implementation-driven revisions and updates to existing protocols
> (i.e., updated RFCs that match the "running code").
>
> - Interoperability reports as needed for the resulting revised
> protocols that are appropriate for Draft Standard RFC status.
>
> - Minor protocol changes or additions. Backwards compatibility is
> required.
>
> Significant changes to the existing protocol standards are out of
> scope, including any work on version 2 of any of these protocols.
>
> Stability is critical to the usage of these protocols, so backwards
> compatibility with existing implementations will be a requirement
> imposed on for all protocol changes and additions. Note that this is a
> requirement for implementation compatibility - if it is the case that
> all implementations of a protocol have done something different than
> what the RFC specifies, it is appropriate for a new RFC to document
> what the "running code" actually does and deprecate the unused
> original behavior.
>
> Initial list of work items:
>
> (1) iSCSI: Combine RFCs 3720 (iSCSI), 3980 (NAA names), 4850 (node
> architecture key) and 5048 (corrections/clarifications) into one draft
> (3720bis), removing features that are not implemented in practice.
> This draft should be prepared so that it could become a Draft Standard
> RFC, but it is up to the to decide whether to advance it to Draft
> Standard.
>
> (2) iSCSI: Add features to support SAM-4 (4th version of the SCSI
> architecture) in a backwards-compatible fashion, as iSCSI is currently
> based on SAM-2. This will be a separate draft from the iSCSI update in
> the previous bullet. The Working group may add additional minor useful
> iSCSI features to this draft.
>
> (3) FCIP: IP Protocol number 133 was allocated to a precursor of the
> FCIP protocol in 2000, but this allocated number is not used by FCIP.
> The working group will consider whether this allocated number should
> be returned to IANA for future reallocation.
>
> (4) iFCP: The Address Translation mode of iFCP needs to be deprecated
> (SHOULD NOT implement or use), as there are significant technical
> problems with its specification, and moreover, only the Address
> Transparent mode of iFCP is in use. This will be done via a short
> draft that updates RFC 4172, and not via a complete rewrite of RFC
> 4172. A combined draft is expected that encompasses items (3) and (4).
>
> (5) RDDP MPA: Good support for MPI applications requires a small
> update to the startup functionality to allow either end of the
> connection to initiate.
>
> (6) iSER: Experience with Infiniband implementations suggest a few
> minor updates to reflect what has been done in practice.
>
> The working group is expected to maintain good working relationships
> with INCITS Technical Committee T10 (SCSI standards) and INCITS
> Technical Committee T11 (Fibre Channel standards) via overlaps in
> membership as opposed to appointment of formal liaisons. The liaison
> process (including IAB appointment of a liaison or
> liaisons) remains available for use if needed.
>
> Goals and Milestones:
>
> June 2009 First version of FCIP protocol number and iFCP Address
> Translation mode draft
>
> July 2009 First version of iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features draft.
>
> Aug 2009 First version of RDDP MPA startup change draft
>
> Sep 2009 Working Group Last Call on FCIP protocol number and iFCP
> address change draft
>
> Sep 2009 First version of combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
>
> Oct 2009 First version of iSER update draft
>
> Oct 2009 Working Group Last Call on RDDP MPA startup change draft.
>
> Dec 2009 Functionally complete iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new features
> draft.
>
> Feb 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSER update draft
>
> March 2010 Working Group Last Call on iSCSI SAM-4 (and other) new
> features draft.
>
> April 2010 Working Group decision on whether to seek Draft Standard
> RFC status for the combined iSCSI draft (3720bis). [Note: decision may
> be made significantly before this date.]
>
> Sep 2010 Working Group Last Call on combined iSCSI draft (3720bis)
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