Re: [sunset4] Call for Agenda Items
"Zhouqian (Cathy)" <cathy.zhou@huawei.com> Thu, 12 July 2012 11:56 UTC
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From: "Zhouqian (Cathy)" <cathy.zhou@huawei.com>
To: "George, Wes" <wesley.george@twcable.com>, "sunset4@ietf.org" <sunset4@ietf.org>
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Hi all, I'd like to discuss this draft in Vancouver meeting: draft-zhou-sunset4-scenarios-00. Here are the answers for chairs' questions: 1) describe the problem to be solved and show that there is widespread demand for a solution This document describes scenarios at subscriber, carrier and enterprise sites during IPv4 sunsetting. It is not aiming at a solution. The purpose is to put forward some issues in these scenarios for WG discussion and to identify whether solutions or specifications are needed. 2) demonstrate that the problem can not be solved with existing technologies At Subscriber Site, there are no existing technologies for DDNS if CGN is deployed. At Carrier site, draft-behave-lsn-requirements and RFC 6264 have defined CGN requirement and a CGN model for IPv6 transition. However, there are some issues not mentioned in these documents but some operators feel urgent to solve, e.g., traceback, ALG and etc. At enterprise site, some NAT related problems exist, e.g., if the enterprise network has no DNS server, how to announce the public address when the web server is required to provide this address. And there are no existing documents describing how do enterprise users record the NAT translation information. 3) provide a description of the proposed solution along with its impact on current IPv4-only use and justification that it does not harm or delay the deployment of IPv6 This document is not solution related. It only provides scenarios and problems in IPv4-only environment. Best Regards, Cathy From: sunset4-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sunset4-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of George, Wes Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:03 PM To: sunset4@ietf.org Subject: [sunset4] Call for Agenda Items All - sorry for the confusion and stuttering out of the gate with this WG. We have been working with some of the WG chairs of related WGs and the ADs to clarify the division of work among the different groups, as well as some items in Sunset4's charter so that we could give clearer feedback regarding what was and was not in scope for this group. While your chairs have worked out an agreement with the IntArea ADs on some minor wording tweaks to eliminate some contradictions and clarify things significantly, we don't know whether formal IESG approval will be needed, or if the ADs can just ask the secretariat to make the change. We'll keep you posted. But in the interest of making forward progress on setting up an agenda, here is some guidance. Every draft that is considered for adoption in this WG will need to answer these questions: 1) describe the problem to be solved and show that there is widespread demand for a solution 2) demonstrate that the problem can not be solved with existing technologies 3) provide a description of the proposed solution along with its impact on current IPv4-only use and justification that it does not harm or delay the deployment of IPv6 The authors of drafts to be considered should respond to the list with answers to these questions. We need that before officially adding your draft to the agenda. Your presentation should at least briefly cover these points as well. We have a 2 hour session on Monday @1300. Agenda: 13:00 - 13:05 Note well, administrivia, scribes, minutes 13:05 - 13:10 Agenda Bashing 13:10 - 13:25 WG Charter and Scope discussion 14:45 - 15:00 - summary/wrap-up This leaves ~70 minutes for presentations. We've seen messages to the list with potential drafts, including: draft-dionne-sunset4-v4gapanalysis draft-tsou-stateless-nat44 draft-zhou-sunset4-scenarios draft-perreault-sunset4-noipv4 draft-perreault-sunset4-cgn-mib We're figuring on 10 minutes per draft, meaning that we have room for probably 2 more drafts. If you think you'll need more, please explain why. Authors, even if you have already sent a message to the chairs asking for a slot, you need to answer the questions above before you officially have a slot. Thanks, Wes George (and Marc Blanchet, who is currently on vacation) ________________________________ This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.
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