Re: [Supa] Network Topology Data Model and Network Configration Data Model
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Tue, 11 November 2014 20:16 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [Supa] Network Topology Data Model and Network Configration Data Model
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On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:33PM +0000, Wunan (Eric) wrote: > > > In the IP world, we usually talk about nodes, links, and interfaces. > And interfaces have been generalized to cover multiple layers. Is > there a specific reason why you prefer the term 'TerminationPoint'? > How is a 'TerminationPoint' different from an interface (and what > is the relationship between them)? > > [Eric]: As the draft said, network topology DM is supposed to be defined in a hierachy manner. > > When "IP world" is the concern, we are acutally talking about the topology DM for IP. > > You are right that people are more familar with "interface", I am. > > Actually in the IP Topology DM, "TerminationPoint" is interface. > > Per my understanding, this word may be prefered because network topology is not only focusing on IP. > > As you know some protocols don't have to depend on "interface", they got their own vacabulary. > > For example, IS-IS was using "circuit" and VLAN got "port". > > When speaking "interface", i feel it will be more proper when CLI is used. A VLAN port is just another interface. See the IF-MIB or the ietf-interfaces YANG model or the IANA interface registry. If a TerminationPoint is just a different name for 'interface', then I clearly prefer to stick to terms we are all familiar with. > What is the difference of this topology data model from other > proposals on the table, such as draft-clemm-i2rs-yang-network-topo-01 > and draft-hares-i2rs-info-model-service-topo-01 (there there might > be more)? > > [Eric]: I would say both of them are talking about topology data model. > > One difference may be the position they are used in the architecture. > > For draft-hares-i2rs-info-model-service-topo-01, > > I think it is the topology for service, another layer in the hierarchy. I was hoping for a more technical answer. Why do we need N topology data models? If I look at the YANG snippets, I do not see what makes them specific to a 'position in the architecture'. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
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- Re: [Supa] Network Topology Data Model and Networ… LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO
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