Re: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05

Dear all,

Please note that I already expressed my opinion on this topic during the IETF 95 meeting when I gave my support to adopt this draft and as well to publish it.
This is because I consider that this draft one of the main pillars of the SUPA activities.

The other SUPA pillars are mentioned below:

Generic Policy Data Model for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA)
draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model-01<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model/>

SUPA policy-based management framework
draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework-00<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-supa-policy-based-management-framework/>

Applicability of SUPA
draft-vadrevu-supa-applicability-06<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vadrevu-supa-applicability/>

Problem Statement for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA
draft-bi-supa-problem-statement-00<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bi-supa-problem-statement/>

Best regards,
Georgios

From: Supa [mailto:supa-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 10:43 AM
To: supa@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05

HI,

I support the adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model

When it comes to the problem statement I’d say such a document was already produced during the discussions that brought the WG charter, though I must confess I cannot point you to a concrete one right now...

Be goode,

On 8 Jun 2016, at 05:24 , Jun Bi <junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>> wrote:

Dear Fred,

I am glad we have the consensus and you support a problem statement document.

________________________________

Best Regards,

Jun Bi

From: Fred Feisullin<mailto:fred.feisullin@oracle.com>
Date: 2016-06-08 11:10
To: Jun Bi<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>; d.king<mailto:d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>; supa<mailto:supa@ietf.org>
CC: Nevil Brownlee<mailto:n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz>
Subject: RE: RE: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05
Thanks for the clarification.
Looks like we both SUPPORT the adoption of the draft by the working group and adding a summary.
I am OK with a concise Prob statement draft.

Fred

From: Jun Bi [mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:27 PM
To: Fred Feisullin; d.king; supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>
Cc: Nevil Brownlee
Subject: Re: RE: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05

Dear Fred,

I am afraid you misunderstood my comment.
I  DO Support this draft is adopted by WG.
My comment is about how to make people understand the background of the WHOLE supa.
Adding a summary is good for THIS draft (on info model), but not enough for the WHOLE supa.
Therefore, I do suggest the WG having a problem statement draft, as most of other WGs.

________________________________

Best Regards,

Jun Bi

From: Fred Feisullin<mailto:fred.feisullin@oracle.com>
Date: 2016-06-08 03:33
To: Jun Bi<mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn>; d.king<mailto:d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>; supa<mailto:supa@ietf.org>
CC: Nevil Brownlee<mailto:n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz>
Subject: RE: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05
Hi Jun,

I do not share this opinion.
IMHO, the work is a clearly written, very valuable, informative, self-contained document with well stated objectives and pointers to new paths forward.
Perhaps some could benefit from a very brief executive summary of the main objectives at the top of the document?

Fred

From: Jun Bi [mailto:junbi@tsinghua.edu.cn]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:32 AM
To: d.king; supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>
Cc: Nevil Brownlee
Subject: Re: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05

Support, this is a solid document for all SUPA folks to work on !
I’m little concerned about the length and readability, it’s not easy for readers and users to get the whole idea from this 100 page document.

In this case, I would like to emphasize again the importance of a problem statement draft to provide a clear and simple concept to new comers why is SUPA proposed and what we want to do.

________________________________

Best Regards,

Jun Bi

From: King, Daniel<mailto:d.king@lancaster.ac.uk>
Date: 2016-05-24 06:03
To: supa@ietf.org<mailto:supa@ietf.org>
CC: Nevil Brownlee<mailto:n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz>
Subject: [Supa] WG Adoption of draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05
Dear Supa’rs,

Following up the poll during the recent SUPA working group session @IETF95, we would like to start the two week poll for adoption via the working group list for:

Generic Policy Information Model for Simplified Use of Policy Abstractions (SUPA)
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-strassner-supa-generic-policy-info-model-05

The adoption poll will end on June 6th. Please provide a clear indication of your opinion in support or against the document, ideally with some thought for your decision.

The intention is to use this document as a base for addressing the following working group charter milestone:

“Submit the generic information model (Informational)”
https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/supa/charter/

We intend to follow-up the poll for this information model I-D, with a separate adoption poll for the data model I-D (draft-halpern-supa-generic-policy-data-model) that was also presented @IETF95 in the SUPA working group session.

BR, Dan and Nevil.
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