Re: [Taps] Charter change for security

Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Tue, 18 July 2017 11:36 UTC

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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:36:36 +0200
Cc: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>, Kyle Rose <Krose@krose.org>, "taps@ietf.org" <taps@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Taps] Charter change for security
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Agreed. Thanks for the text proposal, Kyle!

Tommy

> On Jul 18, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Brian Trammell (IETF) <ietf@trammell.ch> wrote:
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> +1.
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> Cheers,
> 
> Brian
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>> On 18 Jul 2017, at 12:02, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
>> 
>> Agree 100% - I think this proposal is exactly the right way to do it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Kyle Rose <Krose@krose.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Proposal:
>>> 
>>> (1) Strike the last paragraph of the charter ("TAPS is not chartered to perform detailed analysis...").
>>> 
>>> (2) Change the third bullet right above it to read "Extension, modification, or creation of transport or security protocols"
>>> 
>>> The idea being to permit analysis of the properties of security protocols with respect to the requirements of TAPS systems, but not to permit creation or customization of security protocols.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Kyle
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