Re: [Taps] IETF100 meeting agenda uploaded

Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Sun, 05 November 2017 20:44 UTC

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To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
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One quick thought on this: I think that the charter item 3 (the recommended mechanisms for deploying a TAPS system) can and should certainly include multiple documents. These documents we'll be talking about are in no way mutually exclusive, so I don't think we should be thinking of it as "hear all three and choose one of them". We may well want to adopt all of them, or some other combination of documents, to cover item 3. Specifically, from the charter item, we see that the idea is plural: "Specify experimental support mechanisms ...".

One proposal for approaching the charter item is to ultimately have documents like this:
- A top-level API document (like post sockets, as informed by the specific implementation example that Gorry gives in the NEAT document)
- A document on application preferences interacting with system policy (like the socket intents draft)
- A document on racing connection establishment (like draft-pauly-taps-guidelines-01 + draft-grinnemo-taps-he-03)

These different aspects don't necessarily make sense to combine, and have different audiences for implementers.

The agenda order could be modified, but since there doesn't need to be any mutual exclusivity between the items, the current order should be fine too.

Thanks,
Tommy

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 12:49 AM, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It seems to me that this charter contains three items that relate to the API:
> 1) draft-trammell-taps-post-sockets-03
> 2) draft-tiesel-taps-socketintents-01
> 3) draft-fairhurst-taps-neat-00
> 
> ...which are currently charter items 3, 4 and 6 (an unrelated - no less important! because it describes the implementation! - item takes position 5). Moreover, for the first one, it says "expected adoption call targeting charter item 3”.
> 
> I think it would make more sense to first hear all three proposals and then discuss the possible adoption of one of them?
> 
> Cheers,
> Michael
> 
> 
>> On Nov 4, 2017, at 11:14 PM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com <mailto:zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com>> wrote:
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>> Hello WG,
>>  
>> The agenda for IETF100 has been uploaded https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-taps/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/agenda-100-taps/>
>>  
>> Any comments?
>>  
>> BR
>>  
>> Zahed
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