Re: [Taps] Erik Kline's Discuss on draft-ietf-taps-interface-22: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Tue, 14 November 2023 16:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Taps] Erik Kline's Discuss on draft-ietf-taps-interface-22: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Erik,

Thanks very much for your review!

The authors have just posted a -23 version that addresses all of the IESG comments, including your DISCUSS. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-taps-interface-23.html

For your particular DISCUSS comment on PvD Identifiers, we submitted this PR: https://github.com/ietf-tapswg/api-drafts/pull/1427. That change:
- References RFC 8801
- Explains that the FQDN defined there can be used, but that other PvD IDs may be available that are locally defined on a system

Best,
Tommy (on behalf of the authors)

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> DISCUSS:
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> # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-taps-interface-22
> CC @ekline
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> ## Discuss
> 
> ### S6.1.12
> 
> * "there is currently no portable standard format for a PvD identifier"
> 
>  RFC 8801 should be considered here.
> 
>  An argument can be made that there is no *single* format, but there
>  certainly is a string FQDN PvD ID standard.
> 
>  I think it's fair to require that the FQDN PvD ID strings be considered
>  MTI here, or that an implementation have some way to use handles that
>  refer to these.  Maybe that's what's meant here by the integer option
>  mention and I'm just not getting the clue.
> 
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> COMMENT:
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> # Internet AD comments for draft-ietf-taps-interface-22
> CC @ekline
> 
> * comment syntax:
>  - https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md
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> * "Handling Ballot Positions":
>  - https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/
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> # Comments
> 
> ### S3
> 
> * "The application should not assume that ignoring events..."
>  s/should not/SHOULD NOT/?
> 
> ### S6.1
> 
> * "Connection can perform name resolution"
> 
>  Does the Connection do name resolution?  I would have expected this to
>  either be done by Preconnection or just "the API implementation".
> 
> ### S6.1.3
> 
> * If calls like NewPreconnection() take an array of RemoteEndpoints why
>  is it necessary to add one RemoteEndpoint to another via .AddAlias(),
>  rather than just tossing into the []RemoteEndpoints array?
> 
> ### S6.2
> 
> * It's probably too late for a bikeshed, but I find a Preference named
>  "Ignore" to not mean "No Preference", as I read it.  I would have expected
>  something like a Preference of "None".
> 
>  To me, "Ignore" feels kinda somewhat like "Avoid" (or "Eschew" :D ).
> 
> ### S6.2.1
> 
> * "without corruption"?
> 
>  I think I would have expected "without loss"; "without corruption" implies
>  to me that there's some extra level of integrity checking go on (vis.
>  S6.2.7).
> 
> ### S6.2.13
> 
> * Why should the preference be Avoid for Rendezvous use cases?  It seems
>  to me like many Rendezvous uses are not necessarily long-lived and so
>  might be Preference None (Ignore), or even Prefer.
> 
> ### S9.1.3.7
> 
> * Same question as S6.2.1 above.
> 
> ## Nits
> 
> ### S5
> 
> * "Actions, events, and errors in implementations" ->
>  "Action, event, and error objects in implementations"
> 
> ### S6.1, S6.1.4
> 
> * "Port (a 16-bit integer)"
> 
>  Perhaps "unsigned integer", or "non-negative integer"?
> 
> * ":0a" -> ":a", I think
> 
> ### S6.1.5
> 
> * "newPreconnection(...)" -> "NewPreconnection(...)"?
> 
> ### S9.1.3.10
> 
> * s/endpount/endpoint/
> 
> 
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