[tcpinc] Why retain negotatiation

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Sat, 16 July 2016 15:58 UTC

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Subject: [tcpinc] Why retain negotatiation
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Dear all,
Originally negotiation was proposed because EKR wanted to use TLS.
That has now ended, but we are retaining the negotiation layer with
far more generality then required. I'm not sure why that is.
Sincerely,
Watson