Re: [tcpm] A clarification about draft-welzl-tcpm-tcb-sharing

Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com> Thu, 05 November 2015 18:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] A clarification about draft-welzl-tcpm-tcb-sharing
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Some data points to the Linux implementation: we've found it more harmful
than useful, and have disabled it at Google (internal/external) for years.

Externally: IP no longer serves a good index. e.g., DHCP, NAT. Therefore
most if not all metrics are brittle.
Even for places where IP indexing still works: reusing ssthresh from TCP
just recovered from timeout will force the new TCP to exit slow start right
away





On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just watched the video of TCPM and noticed a minor confusion at the end
> about what the plan really is - because draft-welzl-tcpm-tcb-sharing just
> contains a table contrasting RFC 2140 to implementations, and are we aiming
> at Informational or a recommendation?
>
> Our plan is to update RFC 2140 to bring it in line with today's reality -
> what is currently implemented. I think Informational is still fine as
> status (but open to debate if people feel otherwise).
>
> Why didn't we write RFC2140bis but a separate document? Because one of the
> chairs suggested this as a way forward, rather than doing a full first
> version of RFC2140bis, given that we believed that just showing this table
> and opening it for discussion is the best way to get this started.
>
> Cheers,
> Michael
>
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