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Re: [tcpm] [tsvwg] L4S related activity in 3GPP

Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> Sat, 09 November 2019 20:44 UTC

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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] [tsvwg] L4S related activity in 3GPP
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> On 9 Nov, 2019, at 10:38 pm, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
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>> There are other promising features with L4S. One being that it can enable congestion control algorithms to quickly grab free capacity.
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> 	[SM] When you say L4S, do you mean the congestion signaling? Then https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-taht-sce-00 should have you covered, without the nasty side-effects of the current L4S proposal. Or do you mean the actual congestion controller as implemented in TCP prague? 

Nitpick: the correct reference is now https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-morton-tsvwg-sce-01 and significantly updated relative to that old version.

 - Jonathan Morton

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