[tcpm] draft-kuehlewind-tcpm-ecn-fallback-01.txt
John Leslie <john@jlc.net> Tue, 01 October 2013 15:05 UTC
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From: John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
To: Brian Trammell <trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
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Subject: [tcpm] draft-kuehlewind-tcpm-ecn-fallback-01.txt
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I very much support this sort of work; but I think any RFC will have to rely more on stated principles than an algorithm. This algorithm will fail badly if the actual path changes often enough between ECN-friendly and ECN-unfriendly. Also note that we already know of several flavors of ECN-unfriendly. IMHO, we need to start using ECN early in the absence of indications of an ECN-unfriendly path; and back off quickly in the presence of such indications. There may (or may not) be other indications of path changes, which we could use to be more fearful... But fundamentally, clearing ECN bits just puts us into packet-drop as the only signal, while dropping ECN-aware packets may or may not indicate any congestion. When a significant fraction of ECN-aware packets get dropped, it's clearly time to stop ECN-marking. Et cetera... -- John Leslie <john@jlc.net>
- [tcpm] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ku… Brian Trammell
- [tcpm] draft-kuehlewind-tcpm-ecn-fallback-01.txt John Leslie
- Re: [tcpm] draft-kuehlewind-tcpm-ecn-fallback-01.… Brian Trammell