Re: [Teas] Network slicing framework : Issue #7: Workflow

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Subject: Re: [Teas] Network slicing framework : Issue #7: Workflow
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Hi Kenichi, 

I agree this makes sense even if I think that this can be handled by the protocol used to place a request (confirmed commit in netconf, for example). 

A successful feasibility check does not guarantee that a subsequent request will be accepted unless some resource preservations are made, though. 

Cheers, 
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Ogaki, Kenichi
> Envoyé : jeudi 30 septembre 2021 10:39
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>;
> adrian@olddog.co.uk; teas@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [Teas] Network slicing framework : Issue #7: Workflow
> 
> Hi Adrian and Med,
> 
> As I wrote below before, a feasibility check request step may be
> introduced before the creation request.
> A feasibility check has a broad sense, but we can limit the scope to the
> available resource check to create a slice.
> This may be not used by an end user(consumer), but a Customer higher level
> operations system* may require to avoid the creation failure or suspended
> state.
> It corresponds to VN compute of Sec. 4.3.1 of actn-vn-yang model.
> 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/WZKp2PHrPqH5J5_km8Mz8P2pSVU/
> 
> *Figure 1 in draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices-04
> 
> Thanks,
> Kenichi
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:45 AM
> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; teas@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Teas] Network slicing framework : Issue #7: Workflow
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> > For that reason, I think it would be wrong to document a workflow.
> > (This is a change to my original opinion!)
> >
> > Maybe add a sentence to explain that the order that the architectural
> > networks are constructed is open for operational choice.
> 
> Seems reasonable. Internals to the NSC should be kep as such (especially,
> the second and third bullets of your list).
> 
> Another approach would be to focus only on the visible external behavior,
> e.g.,:
> 
> - The network exposes its (slice) capabilities
> - The customer requests a slice
> - The NSC maps the requests to the capabilities while applies provider
> policies (if any) and then creates the resource partition
> - The NSC reports back to the customer as a function of the previous step
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Adrian Farrel Envoyé :
> > lundi 27 septembre 2021 20:25 À : teas@ietf.org Objet : [Teas] Network
> > slicing framework : Issue #7: Workflow
> >
> > Dependent slightly on the resolution of issue #6 (architecture and
> > terminology), we could document a workflow.
> >
> > For example,:
> > - customer requests a slice
> > - NSC maps slice to a slice group
> > - NSC maps slice group to a resource partition
> > - NSC allocates resources to the resource partition
> >
> > But it seems to me that these steps could happen in pretty much any
> > order depending to operational preferences and possibly the technology
> > of the network.
> >
> > For that reason, I think it would be wrong to document a workflow.
> > (This is a change to my original opinion!)
> >
> > Maybe add a sentence to explain that the order that the architectural
> > networks are constructed is open for operational choice.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Adrian
> >
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