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Re: [Teas] [E] Send again using PDF: A slide on VPN+ and IETF network slices

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Tue, 09 November 2021 17:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Teas] [E] Send again using PDF: A slide on VPN+ and IETF network slices
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No, the framework makes no assumption on how you realise/deliver the slice service. It *does* point at a couple of options based on established TEAS technology, while acknowledging “other solutions are available”.

 

I think that work is ongoing to show the applicability of VPN+ to slicing (to help you work out how to do it) just as there is a draft on ACTN applicability.

 

A

 

From: Jalil, Luay <luay.jalil@verizon.com> 
Sent: 09 November 2021 17:21
To: adrian@olddog.co.uk
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Subject: Re: [E] [Teas] Send again using PDF: A slide on VPN+ and IETF network slices

 

Thanks Adrian. That was my question that I didn't get to ask. Does the draft assume that every slice requires an enhanced VPN?

 

Regards,

Luay

 

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:18 AM Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk> > wrote:

Sorry. PDF would be more polite

(Should also say - slide courtesy of Jie Dong).

A

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk> > 
Sent: 09 November 2021 17:16
To: 'teas@ietf.org <mailto:teas@ietf.org> ' <teas@ietf.org <mailto:teas@ietf.org> >
Subject: A slide on VPN+ and IETF network slices

Hi,

I think this is relatively uncontentious. (But what do I know? You guys are
more than capable of finding issues where I see calm water ;-)

The point of the slide is:
You can use enhanced VPNs to deliver network slicing, but it is not the only
way.
You can request an enhanced VPN as a separate concept (i.e., not
specifically as a slice).

Comments?

Adrian
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