Re: [Teas] Deborah Brungard's Discuss on draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

["Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Alia,

From: Alia Atlas <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 10:30 AM
To: Deborah Brungard <[e-mail]>
Cc: The IESG <[e-mail]>, OSPF WG List <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Acee Lindem <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "TEAS WG ([e-mail])" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Deborah Brungard's Discuss on draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

More specifically, as Deborah pointed out, in RFC 5817 Section 4.1, it says
"Specifically, the node where graceful shutdown of a link is desired originates the TE LSA or IS-
   IS-LSP containing a Link TLV for the link under graceful shutdown
   with the Traffic Engineering metric set to 0xffffffff, 0 as
   unreserved bandwidth. "

and draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-14 conflicts with that by using 0xfffffffe instead.

I’ll defer to Shraddha and the other authors on this one. We did discuss the RFC 5817 inconsistency once already and the intension is that TE interface would still be used as a last resort TE interface.

Thanks,
Acee


Regards,
Alia

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Alia Atlas <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Could a look at the changes in draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-14 happen?

Also, it would be good to get feedback from TEAS on this document and any concerns.

Thanks,
Alia

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Deborah Brungard <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Deborah Brungard has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-13: Discuss

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DISCUSS:
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This document is defining a MAX-TE-METRIC of 0xfffffffe. But RFC5817 defined
0xffffffff to be used for graceful shutdown. I noted an email exchange between
the author and Acee on this where Acee raised the question why RFC5817's value
was not used. Shraddha replied "We can if we have the Working Group Consensus".
There was no further discussion.

This document was not shared with teas which is responsible for TE (or ccamp
which was originally responsible for RFC5817).

Either this value needs to be changed to RFC5817's value or this TE metric
needs to be removed from this document until agreement with TEAS.


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COMMENT:
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I found the title of section 7.2 "Controller Based Traffic Engineering
Deployments" confusing as it only is describing a controller controlling a
path. It is not "TE" in the IETF sense e.g. TE signaling. It would be much less
confusing if say "Controller Based Deployments" and "satisfying the traffic
engineering constraints"/s/"satisfying the constraints". Especially as for TE,
procedures already do exist.  I noted in the introduction you did reference
RFC5817 MPLS Graceful Shutdown on the procedures when doing a graceful shutdown
of a TE link.