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[Teas] Re: Call for adoption: draft-many-teas-power-steering-01 (Ends 2026-09-10)

Tony Li <tony1athome@gmail.com> Wed, 02 September 2026 15:17 UTC

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Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2026 08:17:19 -0700
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Hi John,

Generally, a network is provisioned in a centralized fashion using the
> global [source, destination] traffic matrix and then applications, both TE
> and non-TE, make use of the resultant topology.
>

For the last thirty years, that has been one alternative.  Another
alternative is to provision and orchestrate things in a distributed
fashion. This has been the root of TE since RFC 5305.

I know that you know this, so I can help but wonder what your real point is.

Regards,
Tony

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