[Teep] Cloud based HSM using TEE/TA/OTrP

Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> Fri, 05 April 2019 19:21 UTC

Return-Path: <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: teep@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1214E12009E for <teep@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 12:21:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XW5n9Zwlgy4p for <teep@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com (mail-wr1-x42d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80298120073 for <teep@ietf.org>; Fri, 5 Apr 2019 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id k17so9225221wrx.10 for <teep@ietf.org>; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:from:to:references:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iifwzws2dDDlCDTv43tlDn7eSjA9mqrIJSUbiZKcmuA=; b=iQHA8iKimLsQhXu/FMAvV+UfypFx0IsPAYoFqCQnr0dvs5+GsDd7M2CxFgOKWV4FMz dOFMkHI5cYBUEVqxOcEgx4S8PRnuHwBobbaUA6/E1lgbCO2ob6z3OWD+h5Iywd4eJ7q3 9SPNkqxjuBjSs9/px56EsIBBFwAsqoa/PfKjNFwODYE2jqld1uB1zSwZQsItfJS+ogf+ QWrMjI8PdKu8inC5LPbBypMrCQKTy1XRC7STKDAOQPV6ulXM7rlX6QgaGmaW2laIoqwa EIC3VPOlgWFVJTSbJiOcm7yFE6QXg5Xn8uyelLRyAG2Ei1VlyLRBshwTN6UI2c0gP0yG /BsA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:to:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=iifwzws2dDDlCDTv43tlDn7eSjA9mqrIJSUbiZKcmuA=; b=J35UgLcLDLsROd+dLqDieeZ0BRf57fdGWeMDAmciuGQpQ2+W6B0cSD3kvFNy04CzyA eCc1pRtUBzTlDoGj4oD46HKyUin8JGx7Tw1qeUECmo9siNo7mOPv+VY4jfFpUgWpI9Yv Jzt/JTQO65huYt4kxcZVZTYyYSPR8hmTp5zu0hArp/zy/Eg79XRVTbr/BbIZ4YnY09Da ajuPwMvhWV0YGD+MsTKsGUSakk1SGX+Iy7I1rlkUXa2SI84Z/FZ4aSykb8Ok34y3oYFu cgydAa9tb3M/UvK53wwX9dBX/n8jAhdWrIFKyiG6NK3JykuA8ZhNU6wqSuLjlQACOziG SsYg==
X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUebGHWHaUcBsom20dgd1U0EZOh671yHRIjIMDsdIfi61hj9Shm NgtYhqdbE8tiGgzFMZk+lHAbqnvw
X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwitDO4ucsaArPGI5AXy3SYzuV+6n9uk2RxKhw13jcrLXaeIrFBbZEdE28q+4CjAaYjHjsF0A==
X-Received: by 2002:a5d:474d:: with SMTP id o13mr9995764wrs.278.1554492065583; Fri, 05 Apr 2019 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.1.79] (25.131.146.77.rev.sfr.net. [77.146.131.25]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id y132sm2150284wmg.38.2019.04.05.12.21.03 for <teep@ietf.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 05 Apr 2019 12:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
To: teep <teep@ietf.org>
References: <ietf-teep/OTrP/issues/14@github.com> <CY4PR21MB0168D9DB7A27245D2B5A354FA35A0@CY4PR21MB0168.namprd21.prod.outlook.com> <e361de94-f219-cee7-0aa4-45c3d14e2732@gmail.com> <f6a98861-d517-d388-939d-b835612a0a35@gmail.com> <7d9cd927-9184-e85b-a2c4-cce166a664cc@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5ca23bde-7c89-994d-9faa-94e68aa98687@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 21:21:01 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <7d9cd927-9184-e85b-a2c4-cce166a664cc@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teep/Ves4loEpejVQQw3AOBt2fObAtMk>
Subject: [Teep] Cloud based HSM using TEE/TA/OTrP
X-BeenThere: teep@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: A Protocol for Dynamic Trusted Execution Environment Enablement <teep.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/teep>, <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/teep/>
List-Post: <mailto:teep@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/teep>, <mailto:teep-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2019 19:21:09 -0000

Would it be possible getting a short description how you envision this use case?

In particular:
- how would keys be provisioned and managed in the HSM?
- how would the HSM attest its keys?

Cheers,
Anders