Re: [Teep] John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-14: (with COMMENT)

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Sat, 25 March 2023 03:24 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
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Subject: Re: [Teep] John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-14: (with COMMENT)
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WFM.

—John

> On Mar 25, 2023, at 12:20 PM, Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> wrote:
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Scudder via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 3:53 AM
>> To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
>> Cc: draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http@ietf.org; teep-chairs@ietf.org;
>> teep@ietf.org; kondtir@gmail.com; kondtir@gmail.com
>> Subject: John Scudder's No Objection on draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-14:
>> (with COMMENT)
>> 
>> John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-teep-otrp-over-http-14: No Objection
> [...]
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> COMMENT:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Thanks for this document. There was one thing in the introduction which
>> rubbed
>> me the wrong way. I acknowledge that this is probably due to a defect in my
>> personality, but I thought I'd flag it and you can address it or disregard it
>> as you please.
>> 
>> The sentence in question is,
>> 
>>   There are two topological scenarios in which TEEP could be deployed:
>> 
>> The quoted sentence implies that the list (Agent behind NAT/firewall, TAM
>> behind NAT/firewall) is exhaustive. But surely both TAM and Agent on the
>> open
>> Internet would work too?
>> 
>> For that matter, there's a large body of work (in which I am not at all expert)
>> that aims to accommodate both client and server being behind a NAT or
>> firewall.
>> I assume you don't want to go to the additional labor to cater for this
>> scenario, and therefore it really is one in which TEEP could *not* be
>> deployed.
> 
> Updated sentence to say:
> "There are two topological scenarios (among others) in which TEEP could be deployed:"
> since the point of the text this prefixes is just to motivate the scope of the document being Agent-initiated connections.
> 
> Github copy at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/ietf-teep/teep-over-http__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!EfXwTWpwOvmu98MM_RzoyQhWH1Xg5LUFfuhmKIFdWFveEHtofB92nIrdT5kDa8OnX6UXymz_MFBBoaM$ 
> has been updated, and I expect to post -15 after the TEEP meeting on Monday.
> 
> Dave