Re: [TICTOC] Extension of working group last call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile-03 (PTP Enterprise Profile)
Karen ODonoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org> Mon, 28 July 2014 16:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TICTOC] Extension of working group last call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile-03 (PTP Enterprise Profile)
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Folks, I have received the following comments on the enterprise profile from John Eidson, co-chair of the IEEE 1588 Working Group... Regards, Karen I have also read the RFC and have the following comments: 1- Last ~sentence "When Preferred Master Clocks are not the Best Master in one domain, they SHOULD operate in another domain when they. " on page 7 section 8 is unclear, i.e. when they "what"? 2- Section 8 describes a TLV you intend to use and is defined as an organization specific TLV. The issue raised by the architecture committee is whether 1588 should require that profile identification be carried in a 1588 defined TLV rather than an organization specific. It certainly would help with global issues such as distinguishing different profiles, possibly isolation, etc. The current draft 1588 profile ID TLV could certainly handle the information you have. I urge you to consider a) moving to the 1588 TLV when it is defined, and b) contributing to the discussion. My plan is to have this completed and voted upon by the end of the September P1588 face-to-face. Whether we like it or not networks especially IP will carry multiple profiles and applications using 1588 so some sort of globally agreed upon identification scheme appears necessary (at least to me). 3- Section 9- I have heard Geoff argue that even Announce messages traversing a TC will have the IP source address changed. I think for the same reason as in layer 2 Ethernet that all PTP packets are handled above the IP layer and therefore retransmission is actually a new message with a new sourceIP address. Not sure he is right but I think that is his argument- I would appreciate some clarity on this! 4- Section 11- I see you are requiring management messages. This needs to be emphasized to the P1588 management committee as I know there are those that would like to deprecate management messages and require only SNMP or some such. There is another issue which definitely will impact this profile, all other profiles, 1588 itself, bluetooth and probably a lot of other things as well. Namely the IEEE Registration Authority has changed their policy on MAC addresses, OUIs and related things. For 1588 and its cousins this affects the clock Identity specification. Perhaps you have followed some of the discussions. Again Geoff is point man on this since he is on the IEEE RAC. The current thinking is that none of the proposed "solutions" will work and the only organization that can provide a solution is the IEEE RAC itself. However it works out it is clear that 1588 clause 7.5.2 Port Identity will have changes. These will likely be backward compatible but future implementations will definitely be affected. Geoff indicates that the RAC realizes that a lot of work depends on their finding a solution in a timely manner. Don't know what your approval schedule is but I think this needs to be considered. My own guess is that the resolution by RAC and whatever changes this forces on 1588 will be 6 months. Hopefully less but it is a complicated mess (for once not of our making).
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