Re: [TICTOC] The draft for IPsec synchronization security

"Greg Dowd" <GDowd@symmetricom.com> Fri, 03 December 2010 00:59 UTC

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I believe the goal was not to suggest a method for adding security but a method for handling the security imposed by the LTE standard for femto.

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From: tictoc-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:tictoc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jack Kohn
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:49 PM
To: Xie Lei
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Subject: Re: [TICTOC] The draft for IPsec synchronization security

Xie,

Is there a reason why you cant use the Security mechanism described in
Annex K of IEEE std 1588-2008?

Jack

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Xie Lei <xielei57471@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jack
>
> Thanks for your information, i had discussed with RFC5840 authors in IETF
> 79# meeting. It is possible to use RFC5840 to fulfill this synchronization
> requirements. I will follow the progress and provide more information to
> Tictoc group.
>
> BR
>
> Rock
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Kohn
> To: xielei57471@huawei.com ; tictoc@ietf.org
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: The draft for IPsec synchronization security
> Xie:
>
> While i understand your motivation to secure the timing packets, you
> really dont need the extensions that you have defined in the below
> draft. You must look at RFC 5840 that extends ESP and see how that can
> be used for achieving the same functionality as you desire.
>
> Jack
>
>> Hi Yaakov and all
>> Huawei has submitted one draft for IPSec synchronization security, you can
>> find it in following link
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-xu-tictoc-ipsec-security-for-synchronization-00.txt
>>
>> We also attach one discussion document in this email, i hope we can
>> present it in IETF Beijing meeting.
>>
>> BR
>> Rock
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