Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com> Tue, 08 April 2014 14:45 UTC
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Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:45:27 +0200
From: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
To: Wojciech Owczarek <wojciech@owczarek.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update
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On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 03:31:58PM +0200, Wojciech Owczarek wrote: > Nevertheless, I do support the call for allowing the mixed > unicast/multicast operation, but not exclusively - also allowing to > use pure multicast operation. From the implementation perspective > this is simple: if the PTP_UNICAST flag of the incoming delayReq was > true, you reply to the source. If not, you reply to the common > multicast group. We have been doing that in ptpd for quite a while > now. But why not simply do what it says to do in 1588-2008 Section 16.1 ? [ This question is directed at both ptpd and the new profile. ] If the profile and the implementations follow the standard, then it makes it far easier for different products to inter-operate. I am willing to bet that some stacks already implement 16.1, and following the standard in the enterprise profile will make it simple for such stacks to support the new profile. In contrast, mandating new behavior makes more work for everyone. Sometimes you cannot avoid having special behavior in a profile, but in this case I don't think the departure from 1588 brings any tangible benefit. Thanks, Richard
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- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Laurent Montini (lmontini)
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Kevin Gross
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- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Douglas Arnold
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- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Wojciech Owczarek
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Kevin Gross
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Dowd, Greg
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Wojciech Owczarek
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Wojciech Owczarek
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Kevin Gross
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Meyer, Peter
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Laurent Montini (lmontini)
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update John Fletcher
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Dowd, Greg
- Re: [TICTOC] Enterprise profile update Richard Cochran