Re: [TICTOC] [ntpwg] comments on draft-stenn-ntp-suggest-refid-00

Harlan Stenn <stenn@ntp.org> Thu, 07 April 2016 06:38 UTC

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Comments: In-reply-to Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> message dated "Wed, 06 Apr 2016 23:21:37 -0700."
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Subject: Re: [TICTOC] [ntpwg] comments on draft-stenn-ntp-suggest-refid-00
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Hal Murray writes:
> 
> stenn@ntp.org said:
> > As I said before, the real source of time is available from a mode 6 query.
>  
> 
> My system doesn't automatically log that.  The remove system probably
> does log it, but I probably don't have convenient access to those log
> files.

How did you get from a mode 6 query to a log file?

> If the reason the remove server is hiding the real refid is to prevent
> the bad guys from figuring out which servers it is using, then mode 6
> access is probably blocked.

a) the "real refid" is not being hidden.  The express purpose of the
refid is maintained.

b) if you have a valid reason for issuing mode 6 queries and the "other
side" doesn't choose to allow this, that's their policy choice.  In that
case you can continue to use them for time, or not.  Your policy choice.

H