Re: [TLS] [Emu] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-14.txt

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Tue, 02 February 2021 16:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] [Emu] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-14.txt
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On Feb 2, 2021, at 11:31 AM, John Mattsson <john.mattsson=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> Our understanding is that draft-ietf-emu-eap-tls13-13 currently has no possibility to progress to the RFC editor’s que. To secure a place in the RFC editors’ que we have submitted version -14 that addresses all the comments in the IESG Discuss. -14 uses close_notify instead of a application data commitment message and slightly changes the exporter calls. We hope this version will clear the remaining Discuss. The only way forward at the moment is to publish and implement -14.

  The way forward is to resolve open issues.  Publishing the current draft would be premature.

> Implementors have expressed a preference for draft-13, but an even stronger preference to finalize and publish the draft. I hope the discussions will continue during the coming weeks and at the EMU WG meeting at IETF 110 meeting, but -14 looks like the only thing that can reach agreement to be published at this point.

  IMHO we are still nowhere near agreement.  There are many open questions which have not been resolved.

  Alan DeKok.