Re: [TLS] [certid] review of draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-09

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 06 October 2010 20:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] [certid] review of draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-09
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Sorry about the delayed reply, still catching up on list traffic here...

On 9/22/10 4:11 PM, Henry B. Hotz wrote:
> 
> On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:09 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
>> 2.  A human user has explicitly agreed to trust a service that 
>> provides mappings of source domains to target domains, such as a 
>> dedicated discovery service or an identity service that securely 
>> redirects requests from the source domain to a target domain 
>> (however, such an arrangement is not encouraged and if a client 
>> supports such a service then it needs to disable it by default and
>> carefully warn the user about the possible negative consequences of
>> trusting such a service).
> 
> 
> Pure wordsmithing.  Make sure this still says what you want:
> 
> 2.  A human user has explicitly agreed to trust a service that
> provides mapping of source domains to target domains.  For example
> the user may trust a dedicated discovery service or identity service
> that securely redirects requests from the source to a target domain.
> 
> 
> Such an arrangement is not encouraged.  If a client supports such a
> service then it needs to disable it by default, and it MUST carefully
> warn the user about the possible negative consequences of trusting
> such a service.  

Just to close the loop, I think we had agreement to remove that
paragraph, so no further wordsmithing required.

Peter

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