Re: [TLS] Comments on
nisse@lysator.liu.se (Niels Möller ) Tue, 18 February 2014 12:56 UTC
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To: Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com>
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Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com> writes: > However, it is a situation that any application that is reading files > needs to be prepared to handle. Disk errors and all that... I think there's a difference between on one hand, truncation due to random failures of your own, reasonably trusted, hardware. And on the other hand, truncation caused the enemy attacking the communication channel for some evil purpose. If we really want to make progress with this discussion, I guess we must also distinguish between file types where appending data doesn't change the meaning of earlier data (e.g, a typical log file), and file types where appending data can change the meaning radically (e.g., consider a document format where you can add data at the end of the file which adds a mark "this document is fake" on top of every page when the file is displayed or printed). Regards, /Niels -- Niels Möller. PGP-encrypted email is preferred. Keyid C0B98E26. Internet email is subject to wholesale government surveillance.
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