[TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.txt

Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de> Sun, 05 April 2026 10:38 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.txt
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Dear Joe, Sean, Deirdre,

I haven't seen anyone objecting to it. I would, therefore, like to 
request call for adoption of this draft.

This should make publication of pure ML-KEM less objectionable.

Thank you for consideration.

Best regards,

-Usama


On 25.02.26 09:51, Muhammad Usama Sardar wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is a quick update intended to resolve some of the contention. If 
> pure ML-KEM draft is to be published at all (I strongly prefer not -- 
> at least not now), I propose this draft should be published before that.
>
> When RFC number will be assigned to draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-mlkem, I'll 
> specify this draft as "Update" to that RFC. In the mean time, we can 
> hopefully adopt it quickly and get to an agreement on this quickly.
>
> Also, unlike the proposal by Bas, I believe discouraging non-PQ groups 
> should be done separately.
>
> Authors of ECDHE-MLKEM are very welcome as authors of this update.
>
> Welcome any thoughts and opinions.
>
> Thanks,
> -Usama
>
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: 	New Version Notification for 
> draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.txt
> Date: 	Wed, 25 Feb 2026 00:07:15 -0800
> From: 	internet-drafts@ietf.org
> To: 	Muhammad Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de>, Muhammad 
> Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de>
>
>
>
> A new version of Internet-Draft 
> draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.txt has
> been successfully submitted by Muhammad Usama Sardar and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name: draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update
> Revision: 00
> Title: Update to Post-quantum Hybrid ECDHE-MLKEM Key Agreement for TLSv1.3
> Date: 2026-02-25
> Group: Individual Submission
> Pages: 5
> URL: 
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.txt
> Status: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update/
> HTML: 
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update-00.html
> HTMLized: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-usama-tls-ecdhe-mlkem-update
>
>
> Abstract:
>
> This is a quick update of to-be RFC [I-D.ietf-tls-ecdhe-mlkem] for
> recommending the three hybrid key agreement mechanisms in TLS 1.3.
>
>
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> The IETF Secretariat
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