[TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-tls-risks-of-mlkem
Andrew Lee <andrew@joseon.com> Fri, 05 June 2026 16:46 UTC
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2026 09:44:09 -0700
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On Fri, Jun 5, 2026 at 9:40 AM Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@symbolic.software> wrote: > I’m noting for the record that the AD asked for this to be moved to its > own thread and then, once it was, stopped answering it. > > Nadim Kobeissi > Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software No surprise. Business as usual for the IETF. <https://symbolic.software> >
- [TLS] WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-tls-r… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Andrew Lee
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Andrew Lee
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Deb Cooley
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Nico Williams
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: WG chair impartiality re: draft-usama-t… Deb Cooley