Re: [TLS] esni-draft-13 suggestion

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 05 August 2021 16:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] esni-draft-13 suggestion
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Hiya,

So I gave that a read through and created a pile of
PRs. [1] I didn't go over the appendices.

As I said, I'm fine if those are ignored - better to
get -13 out than spend ages discussing. (I'm fine with
chatting about 'em too for a bit of course.)

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://github.com/tlswg/draft-ietf-tls-esni/pulls

On 03/08/2021 21:58, Christopher Wood wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2021 21:44, Christopher Wood wrote:
>>> Of course! We're happy to park the next version until the end of the
>>> week (or longer), if that would yield more reviews. Please send any
>>> editorial comments you have here on the list or as PRs against the
>>> draft, and we'll work to try and incorporate them.
>>
>> Great. I shouldn't need that long. I'll plan to do this
>> tomorrow (Wed). If it'd be better to wait 'till some
>> more PRs are merged that's fine just tell me when to
>> start.
> 
> Sounds good! Feel free to start at your earliest convenience. As of now, we weren't planning any more editorial changes for -13.
> 
> Best,
> Chris
>