Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 etc) for TLS ECDH key agreement
"Jim Schaad" <ietf@augustcellars.com> Sun, 12 January 2014 21:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 etc) for TLS ECDH key agreement
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You can get OIDs assigned out of the PKIX arc by IANA when the document progresses. Russ is currently moving control of the arc from him to IANA> Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: TLS [mailto:tls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Matt Caswell > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 11:43 AM > To: Dr Stephen Henson > Cc: tls@ietf.org; Simon Josefsson > Subject: Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 etc) for TLS ECDH > key agreement > > On 11 January 2014 17:38, Dr Stephen Henson <lists@drh-consultancy.co.uk> > wrote: > > On 11/01/2014 17:31, Watson Ladd wrote: > >> But for that we need an OID. Does anyone know where to get one/have > >> one they want to assign? > >> > > > > Private OID arcs are easy to obtain. The following has been suggested > > for > > curve25519: > > > > 1.3.6.1.4.1.3029.1.5.1 > > > > iso(1) > > identified-organization(3) > > dod(6) > > internet(1) > > private(4) > > enterprise(1) > > gutmann(3029) > > ???(1) > > ???(5) > > ???(1) > > > > If we want to use all the curves mentioned they will of course all need > OIDs. > > Given that private OID arcs are easy to obtain would it not be better to get > an IETF arc for this use, rather than using someone's personal arc? (Is there > not an IETF arc already - that seems surprising!?) > > Matt > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
- [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 etc)… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Matt Caswell
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Matt Caswell
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Matt Caswell
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Alex Elsayed
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Kurt Roeckx
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Robert Ransom
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Dr Stephen Henson
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Jim Schaad
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] Additional Elliptic Curves (Curve25519 … Watson Ladd