Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sat, 10 October 2015 14:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Dave Garrett <davemgarrett@gmail.com> wrote: > There is one problem with the current proposed sentinel value, > 0x030403040304. It limits what can be done with future versions. It's not > as simple as just making that use 0x030503050305, because we want 1.3 > clients to be able to recognize sentinel values from all future versions, > not just this one. Thus, for future proofing, (just) using the version > number isn't a great idea. It's probably safest to just pick one static > value and be done with it forever. > That may be true, but then this value is as good as any other. An alternative would be to burn N-8 bits on a sentinel and then 8 bits on the version number. E.g., 01 02 03 04 05 34 [0] BTW, I'm basically indifferent between 48 and 64 bits. -Ekr [0] I didn't use 00 00 00 00 00 as the sentinel because I have some vague memory that there are implementations which use 0s in the timestamp. And now, for my proposed bikeshed color: > > 0x0b501e7e5e1ec7ed > ("obsoleteselected"; 64-bit value) > > I'd like to say I was clever enough to come up with neat hex words, but I > Googled for a list and found 2 to put together. ;) > > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls >
- [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Yngve N. Pettersen
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Short, Todd
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Karthikeyan Bhargavan
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Short, Todd
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism David Benjamin
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Christian Huitema
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Colm MacCárthaigh
- Re: [TLS] PR for anti-downgrade mechanism Joseph Salowey