[TLS] Re: Response to CoI Complaints
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From: Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplus.org>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2026 09:08:58 +0300
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Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> writes: > > This stuff will only discourage people from volunteering for leadership > positions which would be very regrettable. The IETF should be a welcoming body where people examine internet protocols. Many governments make use of the internet to deliver services, so we should welcome people with experience in government. It is unfortunate governments do not support IETF participation directly - the IETF provides a public service, but is funded primarily through industry contributions. It is also upto the participants to examine drafts and conduct in a respectful manner, the IETF provides an open forum for that. It would be nice to have more technical people engaged or previously engaged in government service participate from a wider variety of countries and be recognised by their governments as performing a useful public service, akin to what diplomats (or ITU representatives) provide though at a lower cost and with higher positive public impact. Regards, Benson
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- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (… Rob Sayre
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- [TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (… Nico Williams
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- [TLS] Re: Response to CoI Complaints Dan Harkins
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- [TLS] Re: Response to CoI Complaints Deb Cooley
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- [TLS] Re: Response to CoI Complaints Damien Miller
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