Re: [TLS] NextProtoNeg concerns
Marsh Ray <marsh@extendedsubset.com> Fri, 18 November 2011 05:36 UTC
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On 11/17/2011 11:17 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > > What I really don't like about this proposal, is this text in section > 3: The "extension_data" field in a "ServerHello" and the > "NextProtocol" message contain opaque bytes to be used by the > application layer to negotiate the application layer protocol. The > format of this data is not specified in this draft. > > If you are defining a new extension/handshake message to carry a new > kind of data (application type) there is no value to this without a > definition of the format, either in the same document or in a > companion document. > > The examples in the slides show a very specific format: > "\x06spdy/2\x08http/1.1\x08http/1.0". I don't see why this would not > be specified in the document. Of course, you would need to set up a > registry for these strings. For example, I can see how Microsoft > would want to register SSTP, and other vendors would register their > own SSL-VPN protocols as well. What if you're a small application developer, perhaps with a single application or running only a few servers. Should you be expected to register your format before using it? Would it be expected to follow the same length-value format as the example? Would anyone ever be denied registration? What if their format definition was technically deficient, or they wanted to reserve a bunch of unrelated protocol names? - Marsh
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