Re: [TLS] Merkle Tree Certificates

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 06 June 2023 19:44 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2023 12:44:42 -0700
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Merkle Tree Certificates
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On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 12:42 PM David Benjamin <davidben@chromium.org>
wrote:

>
> It’s true that this would require code changes in more components. But
> TLS, ACME, etc., are deployed many more times than they are implemented.
>

... [snip] ...


>
> To ACME specifically, we definitely don’t want it to be painful for ACME
> clients to implement! It’s probably a bit hard to discuss that in the
> abstract, with our ACME section being just a placeholder. Perhaps, when
> we’ve gotten an initial draft of that, we can figure out which bits we got
> wrong and iterate on that?
>

Fwiw, I don't think expertise in PKI is really a concern here. I know more
than most people about this problem, but less than everyone else in this
thread. I don't even maintain this stuff myself, I just happen to use
Google for "Managed Certificates" and never think about it...

thanks,
Rob