Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption-05: (with COMMENT)
Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Thu, 05 September 2019 05:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption-05: (with COMMENT)
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Thanks, Barry. I will incorporate your fixes in the next version, due soon. -- Christian Huitema On 9/4/2019 8:41 PM, Barry Leiba via Datatracker wrote: > Barry Leiba has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption-05: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Lovely document; thanks. Just a collection of nits here: > > — Section 1 — > > These attempts have generally floundered, > > I think the word you want here is “foundered”, without the “l”. > > — Section 2.1 — > > which inspection would intrude with the privacy of employees. > > “Intrude on”. > > — Section 2.2 — > > and protection of server certificates transmissions > > “certificate” > > — Section 2.3 — > > Deploying SNI encryption will help thwarting most of the > > Will “help thwart” or “help in thwarting”; I think the former sounds better. > > can however be realized by other means. > > Needs commas around “, however,” . > > — Section 3.1 — > > these designs can be broken by a simple replay attack, which works as > follow: > > “as follows” > > attacks breaks that goal > > “break” > > — Section 3.2 — > > the multiplexed server, and by every users of the protected services. > > By “every user” or “all users”. > > — Section 3.4 — > > of TLS handshakes use SNI encryption. If that was the case, the > > “If that were the case,” subjunctive mood. > > — Section 3.5 — > > If the corresponding private key was compromised, > > “is compromised,” or, better, “should be compromised,” subjunctive again. > > — Section 3.6 — > > We can design solutions in which a fronting service act as a relay > > “acts” > > Middle attack by the fronting service. The downside is the the > > “that the” > > client will not verify the identity of the fronting service with > risks discussed in , but solutions will have to mitigate this risks. > > You’re missing something here, a reference after “in”? And “those risks.” > > regular fronting server, using for example spoofed DNS responses > > Needs commas around “, for example,” . > > — Section 3.7 — > > Multiple other applications currently use TLS, including for example > SMTP [RFC5246], DNS [RFC7858], or XMPP [RFC7590]. > > Needs commas around “, for example,” . > Also, “and”, rather than “or”. > > These applications too will benefit of SNI encryption. > > Needs commas around “, too,” . Or make it, “These applications will also benefit...” > > HTTP only methods like those > > “HTTP-only” needs a hyphen. > > to the need of an application-agnostic solution, that would be > implemented fully in the TLS layer. > > “need for”, and “which would”. > > — Section 3.7.1 — > > specific port numbers exposed in some network. > > Should this be “networks”? > > Applications would not need to do that if the ALPN was hidden > > “were hidden” > > — Section 3.7.2 — > > Support other transports than TCP > > “Support Transports Other than TCP” > > requirement to encrypt the SNI apply just as well > > “applies” > > — Section 4 — > > when the fronting server and the hidden server are "co-tenant" of the > > “co-tenants” > > There are however a few issues regarding discovery > > Needs commas around “, however,” . > > o The client browser's has to be directed to access > > The “client’s browser”. > > cryptographic proof that the content does in fact come from > > Needs commas around “, in fact,” . > > The solution does thus not mitigate > > Needs commas around “, thus,” . > > support HTTP Fronting > > “supports” > > applications over HTTP, such as for example DNS over HTTPS > > Needs commas around “, for example,” . > > — Section 4.1 — > > It also requires that the fronting server decrypts and relay > messages to the hidden server. > > “decrypt”, more subjunctive. > > — Section 4.2 — > > be performed by distributing fake advice, such as "to reach example > hidden.example.com, use fake.example.com as a fronting server", > > There’s an extra “example” on the first line. > > We can observe that content distribution network have a similar > > “networks” > > — Section 5 — > > The current HTTP based > > “HTTP-based” needs a hyphen. > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls
- [TLS] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-tl… Barry Leiba via Datatracker
- Re: [TLS] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-iet… Christian Huitema