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Re: [TLS] Adoption of TLS-LTS

Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 08 June 2016 20:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Adoption of TLS-LTS
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> On 8 Jun 2016, at 10:57 PM, Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
> 
> Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> Mostly timing. The TLS working group is now working on TLS 1.3, so 1.2 should
>> be considered stable by now.
> 
> As the draft says, this is intended for long-term support (on the order of a
> decade or more) of existing implementations, not an entirely new, unproven
> protocol.
> 
> Didn't we already have this debate a few months ago?

Sure. But then it was your individual draft, so you got to call how the debate turned out. Now you’re seeking WG adoption.

Yoav

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