Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03.txt> (Prohibiting SSL Version 2.0) to Proposed Standard
"Glen Zorn" <gwz@net-zen.net> Thu, 02 December 2010 14:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03.txt> (Prohibiting SSL Version 2.0) to Proposed Standard
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Michael D'Errico [mailto:mike-list@pobox.com] writes: > Glen Zorn wrote: > > Section 3 says "TLS clients MUST NOT send SSL 2.0 CLIENT-HELLO > messages." > > and "TLS servers MUST NOT negotiate or use SSL 2.0" and later "TLS > servers > > that do not support SSL 2.0 MAY accept version 2.0 CLIENT-HELLO > messages as > > the first message of a TLS handshake for interoperability with old > clients." > > Taken together, I find these statements quite confusing, if not > outright > > self-contradictory. Maybe, a "However" might fix the problem, though: > > > > TLS servers MUST NOT negotiate or use SSL 2.0; however, TLS > servers > > MAY accept SSL 2.0 CLIENT-HELLO messages as the first message of a > > TLS handshake in order to maintain interoperability with legacy > > clients. > > Glen, > > There is no contradiction among the statements, but they may be > confusing (I > can't tell anymore since I've gone through the drafts several times). Maybe I just don't understand the word "use". It seems like if a server accepts a protocol message it's using the protocol... ...
- [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03… The IESG
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Glen Zorn
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Michael D'Errico
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Glen Zorn
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Joe Salowey
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Glen Zorn
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Glen Zorn
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Sean Turner
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Glen Zorn
- Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-no… Sean Turner