Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default
Kyle Hamilton <aerowolf@gmail.com> Fri, 04 December 2009 19:34 UTC
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Isn't "SHOULD" something like "There are some really good reasons for us to recommend this, but we understand that there might be some really good reasons to ignore it"? I believe that "SHOULD" is the correct term for guidance to a programmer as far as his software interfacing with the protocol. "MUST" is the correct term for guidance to a programmer as far as the protocol interfacing with the network, as far as bits-on-the-wire goes. I think Marsh's wording is about the best that can be applied. I'd probably end up with something like "Sometimes processing this application data within handshake is desired, but generally a TLS implementation SHOULD discard any buffered plaintext before the renegotiation's Finished messages UNLESS the renegotiation has the same identity (as defined in [PKIX]). TLS implementations SHOULD expose the details of identity associated with each byte of application data, though the details of such an API are beyond the scope of this document." -Kyle H On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, David-Sarah Hopwood <david-sarah@jacaranda.org> wrote: > Marsh Ray wrote: >> * The TLS protocol allows application data to be interleaved within >> rengotiation handshake messages. Sometimes this is desired, but may >> require extra care. The application-supplied callback and TLS library >> normally SHOULD discard any buffered plaintext at the point of >> renegotiation. > > I appreciate the problem that this recommendation is trying to solve, > but as stated here it may do more harm than good. Discarding any plaintext > may cause the application protocol states at the client and server to > lose synchronization, creating a vulnerability, or at least incorrect > behaviour. > > -- > David-Sarah Hopwood ⚥ http://davidsarah.livejournal.com > > > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list > TLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls > >
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- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Bodo Moeller
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default James Manger
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default David-Sarah Hopwood
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Michael Gray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default James Manger
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Marsh Ray
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Bill Frantz
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Kyle Hamilton
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] matching identity, by default Bodo Moeller