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Re: [TLS] Alia Atlas' No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-falsestart-02: (with COMMENT)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 19 May 2016 01:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Alia Atlas' No Objection on draft-ietf-tls-falsestart-02: (with COMMENT)
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On 19/05/16 02:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
> Alia Atlas has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-tls-falsestart-02: No Objection
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> For Stephen, yes, I noticed :-)

Great. Sean's is better though:-)

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> In support of Kathleen's comment and based on the shepherd's write-up,
> why is this experimental and what is
> the experiment?

There's no good answer, sorry. I knew folks would ask, so I asked
the WG and it seems to me to be a case that nobody cares really so
they just picked one and aren't much energised to talk more about
it. That's not too unreasonable. See the thread at [1] for some
more.

Given that this is widely deployed and a similar feature is being
included in TLS1.3, there is no real experiment here, what the WG
care about is that this RFC be not-PS I reckon.

S.

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/UDiFtVrQhjP9MXMW45tiYHrCDn8

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