IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [TLS] Call for adoption of draft-farrell-tls-wkesni

Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> Thu, 16 June 2022 16:19 UTC

Return-Path: <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A23AC14792A for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:19:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.109
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.109 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=neutral reason="invalid (unsupported algorithm ed25519-sha256)" header.d=fifthhorseman.net header.b=m+WC/cho; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fifthhorseman.net header.b=Q9iDR/58
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Y66qAMjWeH0M for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [IPv6:2001:470:1:116::7]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 70BB3C157B37 for <tls@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 09:19:13 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=fifthhorseman.net; i=@fifthhorseman.net; q=dns/txt; s=2019; t=1655396349; h=from : to : subject : in-reply-to : references : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=jydq6+X9vaF/a4PtRapD+xBHZrtfojRseQHv4oAX0f8=; b=m+WC/chomg1EmaUnnzBAOdTyXmC4rQ9lb3/wkEJv8n76zUuCa8f58h0t/tvngXbS+Spfg Ix+g/4YeZASs8UOAQ==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=fifthhorseman.net; i=@fifthhorseman.net; q=dns/txt; s=2019rsa; t=1655396349; h=from : to : subject : in-reply-to : references : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type : from; bh=jydq6+X9vaF/a4PtRapD+xBHZrtfojRseQHv4oAX0f8=; b=Q9iDR/58HUB3uhHRpQ+yg74tDEyF2A2bKgEZN2ViNcU3U1ZoQBrJjhw09TP6sAs3EdN77 zDkLaK5swOevK7AvYEo7XuqIpg59E2aFW2w5UcLdJIeB0z/t6YTgYoxmY+ucE8rqlZ1CY7E 0pOQNxlclB0278KAil2QBhTUDelcFP2TRV9ylelOWlZKelWLy3LOqW9P9+ugHY49Kd0uQDZ OfflYyweSibhNI/hu2V6aaZEXPnIi54KJH85NbD6L6tR5+KaQgKXX+HCvezOjq5NJJQV9Xo Z9AQRkUBli9OC6h6hqgZA2fnWjrs6/gwTk8lcFHWHCHs9iO8GDuimkyGNPNw==
Received: from fifthhorseman.net (lair.fifthhorseman.net [108.58.6.98]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08F38F9B1 for <tls@ietf.org>; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 12:19:08 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4E446204E7; Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:51:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: tls@ietf.org
In-Reply-To: <493988B2-D947-41D9-9BF6-E1E12F0A16B1@sn3rd.com>
References: <493988B2-D947-41D9-9BF6-E1E12F0A16B1@sn3rd.com>
Autocrypt: addr=dkg@fifthhorseman.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mDMEX+i03xYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdACA4xvL/xI5dHedcnkfViyq84doe8zFRid9jW7CC9XBiI0QQf FgoAgwWCX+i03wWJBZ+mAAMLCQcJEOCS6zpcoQ26RxQAAAAAAB4AIHNhbHRAbm90YXRpb25zLnNl cXVvaWEtcGdwLm9yZ/tr8E9NA10HvcAVlSxnox6z62KXCInWjZaiBIlgX6O5AxUKCAKbAQIeARYh BMKfigwB81402BaqXOCS6zpcoQ26AADZHQD/Zx9nc3N2kj13AUsKMr/7zekBtgfSIGB3hRCU74Su G44A/34Yp6IAkndewLxb1WdRSokycnaCVyrk0nb4imeAYyoPtBc8ZGtnQGZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4u bmV0PojRBBMWCgCDBYJf6LTfBYkFn6YAAwsJBwkQ4JLrOlyhDbpHFAAAAAAAHgAgc2FsdEBub3Rh dGlvbnMuc2VxdW9pYS1wZ3Aub3JnL0Gwxvypz2tu1IPG+yu1zPjkiZwpscsitwrVvzN3bbADFQoI ApsBAh4BFiEEwp+KDAHzXjTYFqpc4JLrOlyhDboAAPkXAP0Z29z7jW+YzLzPTQML4EQLMbkHOfU4 +s+ki81Czt0WqgD/SJ8RyrqDCtEP8+E4ZSR01ysKqh+MUAsTaJlzZjehiQ24MwRf6LTfFgkrBgEE AdpHDwEBB0DkKHOW2kmqfAK461+acQ49gc2Z6VoXMChRqobGP0ubb4kBiAQYFgoBOgWCX+i03wWJ BZ+mAAkQ4JLrOlyhDbpHFAAAAAAAHgAgc2FsdEBub3RhdGlvbnMuc2VxdW9pYS1wZ3Aub3Jnfvo+ nHoxDwaLaJD8XZuXiaqBNZtIGXIypF1udBBRoc0CmwICHgG+oAQZFgoAbwWCX+i03wkQPp1xc3He VlxHFAAAAAAAHgAgc2FsdEBub3RhdGlvbnMuc2VxdW9pYS1wZ3Aub3JnaheiqE7Pfi3Atb3GGTw+ jFcBGOaobgzEJrhEuFpXREEWIQQttUkcnfDcj0MoY88+nXFzcd5WXAAAvrsBAIJ5sBg8Udocv25N stN/zWOiYpnjjvOjVMLH4fV3pWE1AP9T6hzHz7hRnAA8d01vqoxOlQ3O6cb/kFYAjqx3oMXSBhYh BMKfigwB81402BaqXOCS6zpcoQ26AADX7gD/b83VObe14xrNP8xcltRrBZF5OE1rQSPkMNy+eWpk eCwA/1hxiS8ZxL5/elNjXiWuHXEvUGnRoVj745Vl48sZPVYMuDgEX+i03xIKKwYBBAGXVQEFAQEH QIGex1WZbH6xhUBve5mblScGYU+Y8QJOomXH+rr5tMsMAwEICYjJBBgWCgB7BYJf6LTfBYkFn6YA CRDgkus6XKENukcUAAAAAAAeACBzYWx0QG5vdGF0aW9ucy5zZXF1b2lhLXBncC5vcmcEAx9vTD3b J0SXkhvcRcCr6uIDJwic3KFKxkH1m4QW0QKbDAIeARYhBMKfigwB81402BaqXOCS6zpcoQ26AAAX mwD8CWmukxwskU82RZLMk5fm1wCgMB5z8dA50KLw3rgsCykBAKg1w/Y7XpBS3SlXEegIg1K1e6dR fRxL7Z37WZXoH8AH
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 10:51:38 -0400
Message-ID: <87czf8fypx.fsf@fifthhorseman.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/sls3u6Yl0_FrOjSLg0p7Of6rLbA>
Subject: Re: [TLS] Call for adoption of draft-farrell-tls-wkesni
X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." <tls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tls/>
List-Post: <mailto:tls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:19:17 -0000

On Wed 2022-06-08 14:17:03 -0400, Sean Turner wrote:
> 1) Whether you are willing to review and contribute to this I-D, and
> 2) Whether you support adopting this I-D as a WG item.
>
> Please include any additional information that is helpful in understanding your position.
>
> [0] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrell-tls-wkesni/
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-dispatch-a-well-known-url-for-publishing-echconfiglists-00

I am willing to review and comment on this I-D, and I believe it should
be adopted by the WG.  Having a reasonable and standardized way to
publish and retrieve ECH config information is critical to making ECH
effective, and having full WG discussion about how the mechanisms work
(and how they interact with different possible ECH architectures) is
worthwhile.

I think we'll only get that level of full consideration with WG
adoption of this draft.

         --dkg

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email