Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-applayerprotoneg-03.txt> (Transport Layer Security (TLS) Application Layer Protocol Negotiation Extension) to Proposed Standard

Martin Thomson <> Sat, 14 December 2013 01:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [TLS] Last Call: <draft-ietf-tls-applayerprotoneg-03.txt> (Transport Layer Security (TLS) Application Layer Protocol Negotiation Extension) to Proposed Standard
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On 13 December 2013 16:50, Alyssa Rowan <> wrote:
> It is, as you say, rushed. It looks
> like railroading, and I'm sure all want to avoid that appearance.

I don't agree with the characterization.  This needs to be fast, but
to say that is has been rushed would be a vast overstatement.  This
was first raised prior to the first individual submission of ALPN,
which was over a year ago.  We've talked about it a fair bit already
and I don't believe that the substance of more recent revelations
change anything.

I believe that our esteemed chairs and area directors have allowed
these concerns to be raised and debated sufficiently.  I am grateful
that, in this case, they have curtailed the right of infinite appeal
by closing this issue.

Me, I'd rather be spending my time dealing with TLS 1.3.  These
discussions aren't doing anyone a favour.