Re: [Drip] new world record on drone show?
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Tue, 08 September 2020 21:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Drip] new world record on drone show?
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On 9/8/20 2:53 PM, Andrei Gurtov wrote: > > Seems you can order a show online https://www.geoscan.aero/en/show-drones > > Maybe for next IETF f2f DRIP meeting?) > > Not much technical details, but some FAQ in English on wind, launch > area, etc. Since it operates in different countries must be using > international bands. > > The data communication unit: > > https://www.geoscan.aero/en/products/components/3dlink > > 3D Link was designed for maximum possible range in mind. For drone > flight over flat terrain at 50 m altitude and with standard antennas > set 3D Link can communicate up to 20 km in video channel and up to 28 > km in control channel. For flight at 500 m altitude range achieves 62 > km and 70 km respectively. > I would be interested in what the FCC has to say about use of these radios. Then they talk about IPv4, not IPv6. > A. > > On 9/8/2020 5:47 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> >> On 9/8/20 9:52 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >>> >>> >>> Le 08/09/2020 à 15:44, Robert Moskowitz a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/8/20 9:06 AM, Andrei Gurtov wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Drone shows are getting popular, each new one tries to be bigger. >>>>> It seems a recent one with 2198 drones in the sky over >>>>> St.Petersburg exceeded IBM show by a couple hundred. >>>>> >>>>> Looks cool - drones are custom made (by kids?) and keep distance >>>>> of 3 meters. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agSnetEXTvk >>>>> >>>>> Bandwidth requirements must be huge for CC, also positioning is >>>>> more precise than GNSS would allow? >>>>> >>>>> Interesting how drone ID and cybersecurity issues were handled. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Do you have pointers on this? >>> >>> The youtube text pasted on youtube says: >> >> I watched the youtube, I was wondering if there was more info on how >> they operated. >> >> Seems all we can do is guess. >> >>> >>>> Holographic show of quadcopters in St. Petersburg, dedicated to the >>>> 75th anniversary of the end of the Second World War. In the sky above >>>> the city, 2,198 drones circled, creating holographic paintings. The >>>> organizer of the show is the Geoscan company. The height of the >>>> paintings ranged from 50 to 300 meters, the width reached 600, the >>>> distance between the drones was always observed at 3 meters. >>>> >>>> These panoramic videos are best viewed on the big screen. If you are >>>> trying to see what is happening on your smartphone, then you are >>>> unlikely to enjoy watching. If possible, I advise you to review these >>>> videos, at least on a PC screen, and it is better to use a TV, >>>> ideally with a 4K or 8K resolution. The video with the salute in >>>> honor of the Navy also produced high-quality surround sound, which >>>> was facilitated by the calm weather. >>>> >>>> Sorry for the quality of the video, YouTube again presses it >>>> mercilessly, even uploaded to 4K. Everything is like in the last >>>> video with the salute of the Navy. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> Andrei >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 >>>> F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com >>>> >>>> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who >>>> gets the credit >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Standard Robert Moskowitz >> Owner >> HTT Consulting >> C:248-219-2059 >> F:248-968-2824 >> E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com >> >> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who >> gets the credit >> > -- > Andrei Gurtov, PhD, ACM Distinguished Scientist > Professor, LiU, Sweden > Vice-chair, IEEE Sweden > https://www.ida.liu.se/~andgu38/ > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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