Re: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-crowd-sourced-rid-00.txt

Thanks Saulo! Harmonizing globally, in part by aligning definitions &
engaging with ICAO (inc. but not limited to IATF/GRAIN), will be essential,
and we need your help with that.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 12:28 Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:

> Hi Rob.
> I just read the draft-moskowitz-tmrid-crowd-sourced-rid, and to have a
> regulation that can be harmonized on a global basis, some definitions
> should be aligned with what the international civil aviation community is
> doing.
> Some examples are:
> 1) CAA- it means Civil Aviation Authority, and not "Civil Aeronautics
> Administration".  By the same token, we should avoid using FAA as an
> example considering its structure and the fact that this makes the document
> very much US centric.
> 2) UA - Unmanned aircraft. To be coherent with the civil aviation
> vocabulary it should be simply: "An aircraft which is intended to operate
> with no pilot on board." This definition took years to be accepted by the
> global aviation community and changing it now will for sure bring other
> discussions that would not help to progress the document.
> 3) UTM - UAS Traffic Management - This definition refers to only FAA which
> is only one service provider/regulator. Besides UTM is not for uncontrolled
> operations considering that a set of standards are to be specified for this
> type of operations to be able to be harmonized with the current ATM
> operations. To serve the global community the international civil aviation
> community defines as: "Unmanned aircraft system traffic management (UTM). A
> specific aspect of air traffic management which manages UAS operations
> safely, economically and efficiently through the provision of facilities
> and a seamless set of services in collaboration with all parties and
> involving airborne and ground-based functions."
>
> Saulo
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tm-rid [mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stuart W. Card
> Sent: 22-Mar-20 9:08 PM
> To: tm-rid@ietf.org
> Cc: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>; shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) <
> shuaiizhao@tencent.com>
> Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-moskowitz-drip-crowd-sourced-rid-00.txt(Internet mail)
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> On 3/18/2020 8:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > ...
> > On 3/18/20 2:47 AM, shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Add the full name for SPDP (Supplemental Data Service Provider) in
> >> the introduction since this is the first time you mention it.
> >
> > Thanks.  Good catch...
> >
> >> The definition of SPDP is not very clear to me. Is it an entity
> >> inside of an USS? Would be beneficial to provide a use case of SPDP
> >> even though it is out of scope for this draft?
> >
> > Oops.  All SPDP are being replaced with the proper: SDSP.
> >
> > This is in FAA UAS CONOPS v 2.0 sec 2.3.2.3...
>
> For all those not yet familiar with UAS Traffic Management (UTM): a SDSP
> is an entity that participates in the UTM system, but provides services
> beyond those specified as basic UTM system functions, thus "supplemental
> data". This includes e.g. weather but also specifically "surveillance".
> In addition to the section 2.3.2.3 Bob already cited, see Figure 3 on page
> 9 of the FAA UTM CONOPS v2.0 at
>
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